alien workshop decks have nearly nothing wrong with them, i got the rob dyrdek strobe series one which is 7.5 it has a mellow concave but you can get much deeper ones if you like a steep concave they are very thin though but they have so much pop (and it's not even a moonpop!) that i wasn't used to being in the air for that long and bailed out, i'd give it a 9/10 they're much better than element,flip,blind and karma