Calvert40 04/30/2007
I use to attend Destiny about 3 years ago and I recently thought about going back. Well, I was at the Bistro at Riverparks listening to music with my husband and 2 tables over from me was Eastman Curtis and this lady that was not Angel was sitting with him. I thought at first they were with other church members that ride their Harleys. Then the lady gets up and gives him a very passionate kiss and my stomach and heart sank. I was taken back by what I saw and wanted to make sure I was so wrong I leaned over and he was drinking a beer as was she. I went home to see if he was still pastoring at Destiny and he no longer was there so, I went further and found his new church New Celebration church on I-44 in a Holiday Inn how sad. I hope his kids are dealing with their dads infidelity which he use to preach on it is called cheating which is a SIN may GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL E.C. I will not be attending the Jezabel church of Tulsa.Gaurd your heart if you decide to join his church.
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tulsapersonano nymous 04/29/2007
i worked at destiny church for several years and was very close to many at destiny and eastman specifically...i promise i know more then most will ever know...here's the deal everyone needs to be careful with what they say...no one really knows what happened except for those who were involved...leave it at that. always always sow mercy. when you do you a will receive it...here's the deal there is responsibility for actions and i believe that a pastor has to take responsibility but we as believers always must give mercy in spite of wrong...this is why jesus said pray for your enemies...i believe he said that because it benefits you more than your enemies...it keeps your heart right...no one knows what God can do in a moment...the frustration some of you feel believe me i was there and could easily go there but man it is always a beautiful thing to love people when they dont deserve it, thats the beauty of the Gospel...no one deserves it...as for him pastoring a new church leave it alone...you are not God and only time will tell if it is God...regardless it is not up to me or you to make that call...but it is up to you if you call Jesus Lord to pray for your enemies and love people when they don't deserve it...someday you might need it too...thank God God doesn't feel like we do sometimes...God loves eastman and you have to look at him the way God sees him...what does God see? God sees a man who he called to preach the Gospel and carry it to hurting people...the best prayer i have ever heard is God open my eyes to see they way you do...i promise you will see eastman different...be careful what you say against anyone regardless how you want to feel because this is all it is its just a feeling...always go to Gods words and read john 3:17 romans 5, romans 8, 1st john 3...GOD loves us and believes in us more then we believe in ourselves...God bless
star2 03/30/2007
We were members there and went for a long time. We left before we found out about this because we felt like something was going on behind the scenes. The new sanctuary was not getting built and he kept on asking for more an more money. We felt like something was wrong that it was not being blessed. I guess we were right, but since we weren't there I don't know exactly what happened with him (what is true, etc did he have one affair or multiple or any), but I wish we did. I know God can restore. I noticed he is speaking at a men of honour conference later this year and I just wonder if it is too soon for that or did God restore him already. He was a great speaker and I feel for Angel.
PassTheLoot 03/24/2007
Is he a preacher or a player ?? yes he is a very charismatic person, funny, smart, looks good, but would you TRUST him around your wife ?? To preach to you one day and sleep with your wife the next day is just plain low. That's the message his life shows.
ADaboy 02/03/2007
Eastman Curtis is a wonderful man with a true gift from God. He will be restored just as Peter was and will continued his GIFT of teaching in whatever capacity God wishes. We all screw up. Most people don't even acknowledge or admit to the evil they spread through their gossip and judgmental self righteousness.
esad2507 01/24/2007
It saddens me to hear this about Eastman, and it goes to show that once saved doesn't mean we are now imuned from the grasp of the enemy. On this thread someone posted that we need to be careful when we talk about one of Gods annointed. I strongly believe this but we need to remember the story of Samson and Saul when it says that the Lord was no longer with them. These men much like Eastman made a choice to deny Christ and follow their selfish desire. I'll be praying for Eastman he did a lot of good things and there is forgivness and grace but there are consiquences to our sins. And if he is who he started out to be he will deal with them in a Godly manner.
wes342 01/15/2007
Does anyone ever think about his kids? His wife might have been well, not the best, but who is. But, does anyone ever think about the way this affects his kids and all the other teens that he had influence over? Or how about the several marriages that he destroyed because he had affairs with the wives? Where is the example? It is full of pain. Somewhere I think we have to find an example that matters. Somewhere this has to stop. It makes me sad that people still want to follow him..It is probably just woman that want to be with him and don't care about anyone else.
tulsamom 01/12/2007
I agree with all of you below -- but especially SJAW. He was living the affair forever and refused to discuss it with his board members & did not feel he had anything to repent for. As always, full restoration is the goal...but he refused even to be counseled. So if he's not dealing with these issues in his life...who is he?
JenksSister 01/07/2007
I was a member of Destiny Church and would still be there if Eastman had not left. If he would start another church, I would be there. Who among us has not sinned and fallen short of the glory of God? I forgive him and wish he would start a fellowship or anything because I cannot stand to be in any of the churches any more since he left. He is more like Jesus than any pastor I have ever met or known.
SJAW 01/02/2007
The point is he didn't make "a mistake", he committed multiple sins and lived in sin and lies for a very long time. That is not a mistake but a choice to walk away from what the Lord has clearly said is sin (sin leads to hell and death). He can (an may have already found forgiveness) but that takes repentance. And yes, you can forgive him and still point out that he has chosen to walk away from the Lord and not serve Him. Remember, the Word says you cannot serve two masters. "A mistake" is a slip of the tongue or getting angry with someone. It is not premeditated planning to violate the laws of God. That is a choice to sin. Read your Bible, it has all the answers.
jan4skip 12/13/2006
We miss Eastman Curtis at Destiny Church.... He had a huge impact on my family.....
greaterlove 10/20/2006
i love east man, he is a mentor and a role model to many youths including me.
gretalove 10/20/2006
okjgirl 08/17/2006
I was going to his church and got a letter from the new senior pastor with no mention of Eastman. I truly believe he is a man of God that made a wrong decision. I have been looking all over the internet to find out what happened to him. My heart is broken that he could have done that to himself, his wife, his two children and his church congregation. I pray for all of them. I still believe he brought me closer to the Lord then anyone else did he just made a wrong decision and now so many are paying for that. God Forgive him.
sah 08/08/2006
Eastman Curtis is awesome!!! He had done so many wonderful things for so many people. I attended his church for years & if he starts a new church, I will be there. Everyone sins & I'm so glad that we have a forgiving God!!! We need to stand by Eastman just as he would do & has done so many times for all of us!!! His wife & kids are wonderful too!!! Eastman, I love you, Angel, Sumner, & Nicole!!! Your beautiful family will be in my prayers!!! I was so sad to hear about you and Angel and the fact that you resigned from Destiny. You touched my life and the lives of my children and saved so many people!!! Thank you so very much!! Hang in there & God bless you!!! Love, Stacy :)
chrgentleman 07/02/2006
Hi im new to this site but I did wish to add my comments about. I have known him for years in fact when I started out in ministry Eastman took time out of his schedule to meet with me and encourage me. I knew when he didnt have much going and through out his life he has always been the same. Also Eastman's father was a very wealthy man so it's very possible he inherited a good deal of wealth when his dad past away. So leave him alone about this money business. He has never been in ministry for money, but out of a true passion for God. Can anyone tell me where I can get the story of what happened I didnt know about all this till now? Thanks
alfie dentis 06/14/2006
I hpoe hes happy with his new life
UandMe 06/08/2006
What about the women he had an affair with? She too, was also married. In fact they attended the same church her and her husband. How sick is that?
Luke638 04/30/2006
Get behind me, Satan! I am truly astounded at the tongue lashing from these perfect "Christians", who are without blemish and never make mistakes. Pastors and ministers are humans like the rest of us. To call yourself a Christian and expect them to be perfect is a double standard, as the basis of our faith is the fact that Jesus is the only person to ever touch the surface of Earth and remain sinless. For all you Pharisees who are saying Eastman is a crook because he has nice things: Eastman came from a wealthy family-- Next time do some research before you vultures attack; you might just discover the truth! Or you can just not attack people. Now, there's a revelation! We love you, Eastman! You are still "Pastor E" to me. He surrounds you with His favor like a shield; You are blessed coming in, blessed going out, and EVERYTHING you touch will prosper, in Jesus' name! Friends, pray for these "Pharisees" that they might repent and turn from their evil ways-- then they will see the truth.
juliewilton42 03/05/2006
we all must remember that satan goes about as a roaring lion, seeking who he may devour.. he is after those who are committed to Christ. let us not condemn our brother, but, let us pray for him and his family
uu1runner 02/12/2006
I used to really enjoy Eastman's services. He brought an energetic and powerful message. But the more I went, the more I started suspecting something might not be right. He started coming across to me personally, as someone striving for money and fame. He would brag about all the toys he had (motorcycle, in home movie theatre...), but yet the church seemed to be needing money for the new building. After sometime and with not much progress on the building, I really became suspicious. He was really starting to go overboard asking for money. I had heard about some other things before the affair that weren't very good either, but I will not go into detail about that, simply because I cannot personally verify it. It's just a shame that a guy with his talents couldn't have done better. I wish him well, and hope he gets his personal life in back in order. I pray his kids can deal with this.
Zuth 01/26/2006
I know Eastman and Angel. I never felt they were anything but sincere. The gifts and callings are without repentance. The call is still there. I wish I could say I've always lived up to Jesus's standards. I haven't and I will not condemn anyone else. Maybe if we all tried harder to walk in love more and pray more for each other fewer would fall. God bestow his mercy on them, especially those precious kids and redeem the whole situation for the glory of God and the good of all concerned. Forgive us all Lord and grant us more love and grace to live for you. Ruth
justathought 01/17/2006
I have been a member of Destiny Church for 5 years. I would like to know what Pastor Eastman Curtis is doing? I would like for him to publicly come forward. I do not judge him. I myself have made mistakes. I believe that no one is above making mistakes, it is how you handle yourself after the mistake that makes the difference. My life was changed by Eastman Curtis. I still believe he has a calling. Please acknowledge that people are forgiving and merciful to forgive is define. If anyone has a update on Pastor Eastman please write back. Thanks
Rev Ruth Vasu 01/15/2006
Eastman Curtis--I LOVE U. You are great in ministry.You taught me at ORU Ministry Instuition when you guest spoke to us ministers. You helped so many people fulfill their Destiny while the devil tried to spoil yours. It is only natural that ministers & their families take hits & some are hard hits. I understand there is alot more to this & U are taking the hits...to protect the people u love. Did GOD say,"Touch Not GOD's Annointed-& do my prophets no harm"? Any tonque that raise-up against him will not prosper. Rev Ruth Vasu
skdestiny 01/10/2006
I am appalled by the negative and judgemental comments that some have left. When I lived in Tulsa I attended Eastman's Church. I know him and his family well and have known them to be Godly, generous, kind and encouraging people. There are many men and women of God in the Bible that sinned and made mistakes, they were human after all. Not that this is an excuse, but I think we need to be like Jesus and show a little mercy and grace. Jesus said let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Also, look at David in the Bible, he even killed someone, but God was mercyful and still used him. I think people need to be very careful about what they say about other men and women of God and also each other as believers. The Bible tells us to be very careful about what we say about his anointed. We reap what we sow. Sow mercy and reap mercy. Sow judgement and critisism and reap judgement and critisism. I suggest that instead of critisising him, we use our words to pray for him and his family instead. May God bless you all!
Tammy Ricks 01/09/2006
I hate that he fell, but I hate even worse when christians turn on one another. I thank God that, that God is in charge and the ones who are so quick to jump on board with the stone throwers, are not. We need him back on his feet and we need to minister grace to him just as we hope to have God's grace and mercy extended to us. We need to pray for him and his family and every one involved--there is no one of us who does not need forgiveness. Don't play into the Devil's hand and be a stone thrower. Ask for God's grace, Amen.
Misstude96 01/04/2006
Pastor Curtis is a man. AND all men and women are capable of sin. In fact the only sinless human was Christ. Your unwillingness to forgive is a sin. And in God's eyes a sin is a sin. My Husband and felt fed when we left service. We felt as though he was sincere. What he did was worng and he needs to spend his time to refelcting on what he did and work on healing himself and asking for forgiveness. I also have spoke to his personal secretary and she said he has NO intention of leaving the church. That he will be attending as a member. They are not moving they may be splitting up and moving into another place but she was adamant that he was not leaving town. They said to give the family prayers and to have a forgiving heart. AND you know what really ticks me off about your comment. A. that it is hateful, B. That you sound very hypocritical and c. you fail to mention all the peoples lives Curtis has changed by leading them to the Lord.
okiegirl 01/03/2006
He is still in town. I saw him today with his son in Jenks. He is nice guy but a little too worldly for me. We went to his church for awhile. My parents said he was more flash than substance. Mom said she felt he had a good heart but took his family for granted. My dad said that if a man is going to stand in a pulpit and tell him how to live his life that man had better walk the walk and be above reproach. I was really disappointed. I thought Eastman was the real thing but now I know better. It is all entertainment. When I saw him today he was all about being the center of attention. I felt sorry for his son who was in line with him. I caught him looking at my mom...it made me cringe. Seems like Billy Graham is the only left. I wish him humility...step out of the spot light and let the Lord's light shine.
timofeywho 12/28/2005
He is a person just like everyone else. He can make mistakes just like anyone else. Just because he is a minister does not exclude him from the temptations of the world. He made a mistake, he made the right decision by resigning. He will always pay for his mistake. I just feel pity for the people that will be offended by this one man's mistake and turn from the gospel.
fulton003 12/21/2005
i went to destiny for years, then i moved out of state, he was an amazing man, never have i met, and never will i met a man as wonderful and funny as he was, any one who writes anything bad about him is a hipocrite, as if he can not be forgiven for sin as well as we can. as if you all who are negative toward him calling him a phoney or a bad influence to kids have brought as many soul to chirst, you are the bad influences you hipacrites
Zeller 11/25/2005
This guy just resigned as head pastor of Destiny Church because he has been caught having an affair with another woman. His house is for sale and he will go underground until his dirty little secret blows over. I suspect he will relocate and in time fire up the donation gravy train again. Do you really want him influencing our young people? I don't. The vast majority of clergy are good people, dedicated to doing the Lords work. Unfortunately, there are rotten apples in every barrel and this guy is a very rotten one.
Cloudbusting 07/18/2005
Ive just finished watching his show on TV. I had to come online to see if anyone had written anything about this guy. He is scary! and he is influencing young minds...he is also preaching an unscriptual salvation.
JAMBONE 04/19/2005
He has those slightly esotropic eyes (point towards the nose, and that look that, while he's trying to be nice, he can barely control his rage, and he might explode any time. I don't care what his message is. Ok, Hannibal??
blessedbeyondm easure 04/16/2005
Does a lot for the Lord! More than the negative people who left stupid comments.
Watchinyou 12/04/2004
Another phoney that is lining his pockets with gold extracted from the poor and unfortunate among us. His hook is young people, that makes him among the worst out here. He lives in a million dollar home, has full time domestic help, motorcycles and luxury autos while many who give to him have to skip some of the essentials of life so he and his wife Angel can live like royalty.
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