Well, all I will say here is that Mrs Karen's view of TBN and the Ramp's as well, AND Damon Thompson's, is the same as y'alls. They have made it very clear many times that I have been to the Ramp. They don't agree with the things TBN does as well, just as much as you guys!!
The thing about it is, TBN HAS been a great blessing to The Ramp's ministry. As much as they disagree with a lot of things going on there with TBN, AND THEY DO EXPRESS IT, I HAVE HEARD OUT OF THIER OWN MOUTHS, MORE THAN A FEW TIMES. the fact of the matter is, TBN has been a blessing to the Ramp.

They don't "make you" dance. NO. It has nothing to do with that. I was there this past weekend... Damon made it very clear in his message that it isn't about dancing because you can dance till your legs fall off, but if you're not right with God, then it doesn't matter a hill of beans. Revival isn't going to come to your church because you dance, thats not what its about.

They simply KNOW that when you press in, you can't stop, you can't be distracted. You have to keep pressing in. And honestly, this past weekend, if I didn't hear Bryn, (the worship leader) say, Don't stop! Go go go go! Go deeper than you've ever been before!" I probably would have just said "okay I worshipped a little while, it was good, it was intense, God spoke, etc. so i can just stand here and vegg out."

But I am so glad I did not because I got touched and was in the thickest most amazing presence of the Lord I have EVER BEEN IN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
and I grew up in the church, in a spirit filled church and have had some amazing encounters.

But when you press in, they know what happens!
Nobody that goes that truly presses in to God EVER RETURNS HOME DISAPPOINTED!!
Because it doesn't matter where you are. At the Ramp, or at home. If you press in long after you want to stop, you can go further than you ever imagined in the Lord.

Jesus said some are born gay.

Here Jesus refers to "eunuchs who have been so from birth." This terminology ("born eunuchs") was used in the ancient world to refer to homosexual men. Jesus indicates that being a "born eunuch" is a gift from God.

Some Christians confidently assert that God did not create homosexual people "that way." This is important because they realize if God did create gays "that way," rejecting them would be tantamount to rejecting God’s work in creation. In pressing their “creation order” argument, some Christians are fond of saying, "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!" To bolster their position, they often cite Jesus’ words in Matthew 19:4-5, where he responds to a question about whether divorce is permissible:

“Jesus answered, ‘Have you not read that the One who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh”? Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate.’ ”

From these words, some Christians draw the conclusion that heterosexuality is the creation norm and, thus, heterosexual marriage is the only legitimate way for people to form romantic relationships. Ironically, Jesus’ own words in this very same passage refute these conclusions.

As the dialogue continues, Jesus’ disciples are disturbed by his strict teaching on divorce. The disciples say that if divorce is not a ready option, perhaps it would be best for a man not to marry a woman. Jesus responds:

“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

Here Jesus identifies three classes of men who should not marry women. Taking his categories in reverse order, first, there are those who have made themselves “eunuchs” for the kingdom of heaven, i.e., those who foreswear marriage to better serve God. Second, he mentions those who have been “made eunuchs by others,” an apparent reference to castrated males. But Jesus mentions a third category — eunuchs who were born that way. Some might argue that Jesus was referring to males born without testicles, but this would be extremely rare. Moreover, this interpretation ignores how the term “born eunuchs” was used in other literature of the time.

In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture (as reflected in the Talmud), “natural” or “born” eunuchs were not associated with missing testicles. Rather, they were associated with stereotypically effeminate characteristics and behavior (just like modern gay men), and were thought by Rabbi Eliezer to be subject to “cure” (just like modern gays). Moreover, as we have also seen, eunuchs were commonly associated with homosexual desire. (For a complete discussion of the term "born eunuch" and the connection with homosexuality, see The Early Church Welcomed a Gay Man.) As a reasonably informed person of his time, Jesus would have been aware of this common view of eunuchs. Yet he very matter-of-factly asserts that some people are simply born that way. The implication of his statement is profound — God created gay people the way they are! Jesus says so.

Unlike Rabbi Eliezer, Jesus feels no need to “cure” these born eunuchs. He speaks no words of condemnation. Rather he lists people born gay alongside another honored class (eunuchs for the kingdom), and accepts them as a natural part of God’s creation order.

Thus, when Matthew 19 is read as a whole, we see Jesus teaches that most people are created for heterosexual marriage. (We too accept this as God’s predominant creation paradigm.) But, unlike some modern Christians, Jesus does not see this as the only honorable way to live. He acknowledges that some human beings have been created by God to follow a less common, but equally legitimate path. There are some who have been eunuchs from birth — made that way by God.

I guess what I'm really confused about is, where is Karen Wheaton's covering? I mean, who is her pastor? And where is this concept coming from where it's okay to not have a covering anymore? I mean, it's not in the Bible so where is it coming from? I have been to a few Ramp and ramp-like services, and all I've noticed is a bunch of emotionalism. People trying to drum up some kind of spiritual encounter. I didn't feel one ounce of God's presence. I'm not trying to knock Karen, or the ramp, or any other ministry like it, I'm just trying to understand where this type of behavior is found in the Bible. Maybe then I will believe it.

Well I read all these comments because I thought I would enjoy a good Ramp bashing, but actually I disagree with a lot of these- both good and bad. I have known Karen for several years and spent years as part of most of the "behind the scenes" stuff. I'm not sure what to address since I see a lot of inaccurate postings and misunderstandings here. I'll start in Karen's defense. I could find fault with her for a few things, but that's humanity and we all have our problems. She has always seemed to be a genuine person for the most part at least. For one thing, I don't know much about how she remarried, but her first husband cheated on her, which I learned mostly through others and not by her "slandering" him. And she does go by her present husband's name legally, Karen Wheaton Towe, but she was already well-known as Karen Wheaton at that point and goes by that usually. Also, her husband lives about four hours away during the week because he already had a secure job for a company there that he didn't want to give up, and she decided with him that she would minister in her home town because she felt a strong pull there and they would just stay together on weekends. Yeah it's a weird relationship, but they seem extremely happy and there are much less immature reasons than her marriage life to dislike this ministry. As for the $50,000 car, it's her husband's company car that he lets her drive. I know the whole "offensive army imposing the Kingdom of God" stuff sounds like W. Bush talk, but even though I did get tired of always hearing that at the Ramp it's really just scriptural talk about "wrestling with powers and principalities" as the Bible says. It's not a war intended for attacking people. Someone posted that at the Ramp they let you dance if you want or stand if you want. Well if that's been your experience then you're extremely lucky. For my hundreds of services there (literally), I was told over and over until I was brainwashed into believing it that if I didn't keep dancing without a break, for hours at times, then I had "the spirit of religion in me" and didn't love God enough. Seriously. It's not so much Karen that says it, but a lot of the people she lets have the microphone (mostly Damon Thompson). I could never even worship there even though I sincerely tried the whole time because all I could think about was not passing out and the person with the mic screaming "Dance puppet dance." It's ironic how much they talk about freedom of worship there, and how much they then tell people exactly how they have to worship. Also, some people teach there at times (not Karen but others she lets speak) that if you ever like to be entertained you don't love God. Not just sinful entertainment as they make clear, but even good old fashioned G-rated Christian radio pop entertainment. Not that I care about those things, but apparently as they say, if you ever watch a movie no matter how clean it is or listen to a Christian song that isn't worship, you're in sin because you aren't praying and worshiping God at that moment. Yeah, you have to literally spend every second of the day being totally spiritual. I tried this back in my brainwashed days and ultimately left Christianity for the first time in my life because it was too much. Anyway, I'm regaining some faith finally, but only by starting from scratch and learning for myself this time. But on a positive note, if you can get something out of Karen's ministry that I couldn't, good, go with that. I have actually seen some good done for people that aren't stupid enough to listen to everything they teach without questioning it like I did once.

What exactly does Karen mean in her missions statement when she says, "...calling (a generation of youth) into their individual purpose and corporate responsibility as an offensive army imposing the Kingdom of God."

As a young person who has been directly been affected by Mrs. Karen's ministry, I cannot help but support her in what she is doing. About three years ago I was lost in a life of perversion and death, constantly struggling with depression and immorality. Today, though, Jesus is everything I am pursuing....and coming in contact with this ministry is what set me here. They showed me the real Jesus.

Does God Allow Women To Be Preachers?
NO! God DOES NOT allow women to be preachers. That is not my opinion or interpretation! That is plain Bible fact!
The Bible restricts what women can do in the church in I Timothy 2:11-12, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." There are two specific contrasts in verse 11: women are to LEARN, not to TEACH, and, they are to be in SUBJECTION, not DOMINION. This is a principle stated throughout the Scriptures. Verse 12 makes it plain, women are not to teach nor to usurp authority over the man." A woman does not have the authority to teach, or in any other way, have authority or dominion over the man. Therefore, any and all teaching over the man is prohibited! This is not a cultural situation, nor is it simply a first century practice. The force of the Greek words means this legislation is for ALL TIME. It is just as true today as it was 2,000 years ago.
I Corinthians 14:34-35 says, Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. ...For it is a shame for women to speak in the church." Here, Gods law is applied to a local situation. Women teaching men is not permitted!
However, some churches have women preachers anyway! Why they do, I do not know. It is a plain violation of Gods divine law. The only way they can do so is to simply ignore Bible authority. In effect its saying: I read what the Bible says, but Im going to do what I want anyway. The sad thing about it is, many are content to let women do it. Those who follow their lead should read Exodus 23:2, Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil...."
I Corinthians 11:3 states the principle this way: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God."
Surely, all these verses are plain enough that even a child can understand. This is the role God has made for both MEN and WOMEN. Men can no more change the role God has given them than women can change the role God has given them. We must simply respect it!


It is important to note that the instructions found in the following passages are being given as a part of general instructions governing the conduct of the entire church in the process of worshipping God. The context of the passages indicate that there must have been a problem in the early church (not just the congregation at Corinth) regarding women attempting to take control in leadership roles God had not authorized them to take. Women are allowed by Gods authority to teach non-Christians and other women when there are no Christian men to carry out the task.

1Cor. 14:33-37 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. Or was it from you that the word of God came? Or are you the only ones it has reached? If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord.

1Tim. 2:11-12 Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.



Titus 2:3-5 Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

Karen Wheaton's singing has blessed me for years, and I was so excited when I first saw Chosen and her commitment to the youth. However, the past 2-3 times I have seen her in person, she has said some things which are not just unbiblical, but they are outright heretical. Such as "Jesus did not come so much to die for us but more to show us how to die". Yikes!!!! How can anyone say that. If it were not for His sacrafice we could not be saved!! Jesus Christ's sacrafice on the cross is the basis for Christianity.

Hope she can sleep at night while begging for money on the beg a thon.

i would also like to add something that i heard my pastor saying this sunday service. the topic was about being active in serving God. showing initiative. which means, doing something that no else is willing to do. you can not see results or bring fruit if you dont do anything. so ask yourself, before you go and  judge Karen Wheaton or someone else about the way they serve God:" what am i doing to seve Him? have i just been sitting around expecting change, while judging the work God is doing through people that have already brought change?" Karen has dedicated herself to serving young people everywhere. God has worked through her to bring change and results to the youth of our generation. so in conclusion, i would just like to say, that before you go and judge someone else about how they serve God, look at what you are doing. worry about yourself. if someone does try to serve God in a wrong way, just for money or something else, God Himself will be the Judge on that day we all stand before Him. so im sure that none of us would want to stand before Him with empty hands. He will ask each of us what we have done for Him on this Earth. think about what fruit you will bring Him. start taking action. show initiative, do something that those around you arent doing. and support those that work for the Kingdom of God with you. God bless you.

Revised:  After seeing Karen and the Ramp sing and dance for every TBN BegAThon for the last 2 years and where millions are stolen from good people in the name of God I have no choice but to give her one star. She made her choice.

I think The Ramp and Karen Wheaton are awesome! It amazes me that people don't like either. The Ramp is one of the only places I have found where God can be worshiped in many different ways. If you want to dance you can, if you want to stand there, you can. The people who do "judge" are the people who don't understand. When I think of all God has done for me, how could I not be excited? If someone bought me a house or car I would be so excited for YEARS. God sent his son to die FOR me. Yeah I'm gonna be excited about that!

All the negative reviews seem to reflect people's opinion of TBN. Karen Wheaton is featured on TBN.. her soul isn't sold to it. The Ramp and Karen's ministry tend to indirectly speak out against many negative attributes of TBN quite boldly. You will know them by their fruits and I think the tens of thousands who have been moved by Karen, Chosen, and The Ramp speak for themselves

I can't believe that some people have the nerve to say negative remarks about Karen ....
She is an annointed Woman of God.... who has sacrificed all her time to spreading the gospel... and praying for the youth of this nation. She is just a woman , a human woman who said yes to God. She sacrificed a lot for Jesus Christ.... She has the Spirit of God heavily upon her.... She has ministered some amazing songs that have lifted my spirit and have called the body of christ to repentence , ect.. She is a woman of God.. God says in His word to touch not my anointed and to do my prophets no harm....
So how dare some of you try to touch God's anointed servant!!! You need to check your own hearts!

Good gospel singer.

She has a good voice. But, she needs to get away from the TBN/Word of Faith crowd. They're really ruining her image & talent.

3 stars.

  I have known Karen for a few years also and I have found her to be anything but sincere. She has slandered her ex-husband for 11 years but fails to explain why or how she got married so fast after her first divorce. (ONLY 4MONTHS LATER)She did not take her new husband's name and he lives in another state and has for over 10 years. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. She may look sincere and even holy on TV but her treatment of those she deems beneath her is a glaring example of who she really is. It will eventually come out. The truth always does. TBN "stars" are about one thing and one thing only: Their next gig. They extort money from poor ignorant people so they can buy designer clothes and drive 50,000 dollar cars. It's obscene the way TBN prostitutes the gospel for personal profit and power and fame. Just ask the people behind the scenes!!!

All the comments indicate they worship Karen not God

She sings a great song about healing that I've heard a couple times but don't know the name of. Karen is sincere.

I commend her for her passion for the Lord.

I played in Karen's band back in 1980, prior to her joining Jimmy Swaggart Ministries, and had the opportunity to know her as both an annointed minister and friend. We logged many miles and hours together as a band. Though the clips I have seen of the RAMP have left me with some of the same questions I asked of Charismatic circles more than 20 years ago and whether or not some people really understand why they do what they do, I can say that Karen appears to have remained consistent and full of fire. What you see is what you get; passion and all. Karen is not about entertainment; yes, she really is that intense. When she speaks or sings, it really does come from her deepest being. She's not perfect, but she is passionate and authentic. I commend her for the ministry she has done over the past 25 years and I commend her for being concerned about encouraging the youth as they are up against plenty of battles and need to be empowered by God's Spirit. CD

She and her team are a blessing to teens. I sometimes hear her sing and often enjoy it.

Great vocalist - soothing uplifting songs.

Very good singer. She does a lot of good for young people.

One of her songs is good, but I've never heard her preaching.

I've been following Karen's Ministry for years. She sings with such conviction and anointing that you can't help but be blessed. I praise God for all of the hard work and dedication that she is doing for His kingdom.

Karen sings great songs with all of her heart.

Of course she is an evangelist....she is seeing souls saved set free and delivered.....Teens who are bound by suicide, cutting, depression, drugs, prostitution, etc...are being set free and living 100 percent radically for Jesus.....her ministry is bringing much needed fruit and as the bible says you shall know them by their fruit....I love you Mama Karen.

She's an okay singer, but do you consider her an evangelist?

Karen Wheaton and Chosen are willing vessels to facilitate the move of God. They are willing to let God move through them no matter what other people say or think about them. You cannot deny the fruit that has come from the ministry.

Hello there. I have recently returned from the winter Ramp and i just want to say Mrs. Karen and chosen are truely annointed and God has done such great things and if you say it is all show you should go to the Ramp and experience it yourself before you start passing judgement and these kids cry out from their heart who are you to point a finger at them for the way they pray or the way they worship they dont care they are not doing it for you it is all for God and if you say it is all show if only you could see what has happened in our church because a group of kids went to the ramp and came back not ashamed to dance or praise or worship or pray. There is a spiritual war going on out there and if satan wants to pick the battle ground to fight on all i have to say is bring it on. God is so great and he will continue to bless mrs.karen and chosen in everything they do. For all of you who dont agree with Mrs. Karens ministry just go to a service with an open heart and God will change you i am a living example of that. I am in an offensive army i am not on the defence i am in the offence and i pray for all of the people who think it is just a show its not just a show its is true worship from the heart. May God continue to bless each and every one of you!

All these comments, besides the comments that people leave that think their being funny, are so right on. I believe that Karen wheaton, and Chosen are out for the victory of the war. They want many youth to realize that there is a war going on, and they want you to part of the fight. We have to stand up and be the christian that God wants us to be. I havent been to the ramp, yet, but my youth pastor has and we are going to it some time soon. Ive heard all about it and can't wait to see the move of God their.

Hi! have a nice day to the one who read this. By the way im a first user of this site and its my first time to write an opinion, eventhough i haven't,watch TBN now because of disconnection and some problems in our area I have watch TBN in past years and the ramp which you called is a really a blessing for those young people who watch it! I hope that one day we the young people in our church could attend and see clearly in personal how the ramp or your service is going on! I want to feel the power of GOD. Pls. pray for us! Keep up the good work and continue in serving GOD.

I LOVE THE AWESOMENESS OF THE PASSION AND REALNESS THAT CHOSEN AND KAREN WHEATON SHOW.i SAY LETS GO CRAZY FOR GOD.WE WANT GOD FOR REAL!!!!!!!!!!

Karen Wheaton and her dancers are truly annointed. I look foward to watching her every Friday when she comes on TBN. I am only 15 years old and I can discern whats of God and what is not and I know that she and her ministry is totally of God. When I first watched her program I was in my bed at 2:00 am and I was blown away by the annointing I wept in my bed right there because I could feel the presence of God all around me.

Karen Wheaton has been such a blessing to me my self she has opened my eyes to the freedom God has for us. I am 110% behind her ministry. I know for a fact that through God she is touching other youth throughout the country. I know some people do not accept the things she is teaching, let God judge them it is not our place for us to judge. All I wnated to say is Karen Wheaton has been a major inspiration to me and many others I know. She is very down to earth olny doing what God tells her to do. God will reward her for that.

I love karen wheaton's program. She knows God

I am a Christian. I'm not charismatic, I've never spoken in tongues before, etc. However, Karen Wheaton/Chosen/The Ramp's ministry is so obviously annointed by God, that you'd have to be extremely disconnected with God to not notice it or to interpret it as "brainwash". Never has a group of young people exhibited so much spiritual freedom on a television and internet broadcast. This ministry, along with Jason Upton's music and many other influences, has challenged me spiritually in so many ways recently, and has been an incredible blessing to my life. And let me remind all you negative voices, your whining and nitpicking will not stamp out the annointing on their ministry. All it does is remain void of purpose. Besides, if people DON'T hate you for being a light of Christ, then you probably aren't being one. John 15:18-25 says, "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates me hates my Father as well. If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. But now they have seen these miracles, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: 'They hated me without reason.'" Check out these cool websites: http://www.karenwheaton.com http://www.jasonupton.com http://www.generationfire.com

Has anyone seen her commercials? A bunch of kids screaming for mercy on for Chinese kids and other countries. These kids are so brainwashed they dont even know what to think. And how about those people behind Karen with the white masks on, what is this Eyes Wide Shut?...oh wait you guys wouldnt know because your religious beliefs make you want to censor everything that isnt about Christ.

God Bless The Ramp! God Bless the work that God has started in this generation. God open the eyes of those who are ignorit to your spirit and have not yet felt the touch that many have because of this ministry. K. Wheaton and her drama team have always blessed me, I cry, I laugh I feel the Holy Spirit and It has caused me to be a better youth leader and Youth Drama Leader in my church. GO MS.WHEATON!!!! GO GOD!!!!!

As a Cleveland Ramp goer I am utterly disgusted how some people say that Miss Karen's ministry is all show and is not of God, blah, blah, blah. I have experienced it and know it is real. Miss Karen and Chosen have an annointing that can't be touched. I believe that people are ignorant when they say things like that. I know that God is doing something in the hearts of the people. Look around! God is stirring up this nation with disaster and He is going to change it. A lot of it is starting with the faithfulness of Miss Karen, Chosen, and the people who attend Ramp regularly.

I have listened and seen Karen and Chosen in services for many years now. I have never heard or seen them do or say anything contary to the Bible. When God is in it, man needs to stop trying to control it and let God have complete control!!! There is not one Christian that can say they completely agrees with any Preacher or Evangelists or Pastor. It's time we stop looking at the differences between us all and focus on what God has called us to do. Preach the word to all the world. SO WAHT IF WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS OF HOW TO GET IT DONE!! God has called us out of darkness to do his will. It's time we stand up and fight our real enemy Satan and stop fighting with each other. It's time that we the Christians stand up for what is right. Which is the complete word of God. Stop worrying about what everyone else is doing. Are you sure you are doing what God has called you to do? What does your fruit look like? None of us our perfect we all do and will continue to make mistakes until we are called home. What sets us apart is the ones that keep getting back up to continue the fight of faith. Blessing be to all

I can understand your questions about TBN and Karen Wheaton's association with the network. The truth is, there's corruption somewhere in almost every ministry. I've learned, through my experiences with TBN to look at the big picture. I pull out the good, and I leave the stuff I'm not so sure about behind. But, i've learned not to judge. That's not my place. Look at these ministers' fruit...what are they accomplishing for the kingdom? Thousands upon thousands of middle easterners are now being exposed to the gospel and are being saved as a direct result of TBN ministries. No one else penetrated that part of the world before now, and Mrs. Jan and Mr. Paul Crouch took a risk and forked over millions to see that those people were not forgotten. I admire their tenacity. So, while I don't understand everything or everyone on that network, I know they're doing something right. We all have different parts to play in this. The biggest thing we can do to help is to shut our mouths and let God be God.

Karen wheaton and the chosen are great because they are real and they do everything in the spirit not the flesh.

cmh is exactly right in everything he said. What God has reaveled to me by my walk with Him is that hungry people make people that arent hungry very uncomfortable. God is rising up my generation, which in my spirit I feel to be the last generation, an anointed generation. A desperate generation. All we want is to love and be loved for who we are. SO many people in the world and church alike have lied to us and betrayed us. We have to find GOd for God. We are hungry for Him, truely hungry, because if your truely hungry there will be no room for being picky of what God wants to feed you. David was a dancer. He had the heart of God. He had what we want. Intimacy with the King. This world has curropted intimacy so much intimacy isnt sexual relations but it is knowing who someone truely is, knowing their heart of hearts. As webster puts it: relating to or indictave of ones deepest nature. While it seems as though we are just looking for pleasures we are really searching for true intimacy, which isnt easy to find because generations before us have lied to us and curropted everything God has said to be holy. As Jason Upton this generation is going to open up doors that no man can shut and will close doors that no man can open. simply because we are going to be real with the King. We arent afraid of the fire or rejection because we have experienced it our whole lives so its just normal for us if you will. Those of you talking about putting menapause and adolesence together causing all that screeching, yelling, and corny dance moves Maybe your afraid of the fire, maybe your afraid of the rejection. God wants us to worship in Spirit and in Truth. This is how we express ourselves. This is not our but Gods nature for us if you will. He has placed deep inside of us a burning desire for Him. That decieving spirit has hounded this generation like no other. Half of our generation has been MURDERED through abortion, but its not wrong, or so the church thinks because they are trying to abort the children that escaped the first round because we are an inconveniance, because we arent afraid to be differant and we are challenging all those around us to grab on. Karen Wheatons ministry is anointed by God. Karen Wheaton is anointed by God, and God says do not slander MY anointed or there will be judgement on you. ~In Christ~

cmh is exactly right in everything he said. What God has reaveled to me by my walk with Him is that hungry people make people that arent hungry very uncomfortable. God is rising up my generation, which in my spirit I feel to be the last generation, an anointed generation. A desperate generation. All we want is to love and be loved for who we are. SO many people in the world and church alike have lied to us and betrayed us. We have to find GOd for God. We are hungry for Him, truely hungry, because if your truely hungry there will be no room for being picky of what God wants to feed you. David was a dancer. He had the heart of God. He had what we want. Intimacy with the King. This world has curropted intimacy so much intimacy isnt sexual relations but it is knowing who someone truely is, knowing their heart of hearts. As webster puts it: relating to or indictave of ones deepest nature. While it seems as though we are just looking for pleasures we are really searching for true intimacy, which isnt easy to find because generations before us have lied to us and curropted everything God has said to be holy. As Jason Upton this generation is going to open up doors that no man can shut and will close doors that no man can open. simply because we are going to be real with the King. We arent afraid of the fire or rejection because we have experienced it our whole lives so its just normal for us if you will. Those of you talking about putting menapause and adolesence together causing all that screeching, yelling, and corny dance moves Maybe your afraid of the fire, maybe your afraid of the rejection. God wants us to worship in Spirit and in Truth. This is how we express ourselves. This is not our but Gods nature for us if you will. He has placed deep inside of us a burning desire for Him. That decieving spirit has hounded this generation like no other. Half of our generation has been MURDERED through abortion, but its not wrong, or so the church thinks because they are trying to abort the children that escaped the first round because we are an inconveniance, because we arent afraid to be differant and we are challenging all those around us to grab on. Karen Wheatons ministry is anointed by God. Karen Wheaton is anointed by God, and God says do not slander MY anointed or there will be judgement on you. ~In Christ~

For those of you who are slandering Karen Wheaton and her ministry you ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Karen Wheaton is one of the purest worshipers I have ever met, she is real in God, maybe thats what bothers most people. If you dont agree with her and what she operates in thats fine but God says to touch not His anointed so I would watch my words against any man or woman of God whether I agree are not. For those of you who are bashing her can I ask if you have ever been to the Ramp in person? If you had you would know that what is coming out of the Ramp is a generation that is on fire for God, a generation that is not moved by people or religion or slanderers. You would know that people young and old alike are being set free by the power of God, not by Karen Wheaton or Chosen. People are getting saved and are being challenged to walk a holy life before a Holy God. Thats what this generation needs a challenge, they need to see the power of God and to know that He is an awesome God Hes more than just three fast songs and three slow songs, Hes more than just what the Baptist or Methodist or Pentecostal or the Faith Movement or the Charismatic say He is. Theres more to God and worship and praise than just The Gaithers, the Gaithers are wonderful and I grew up with the Gaithers but this generation is looking for something more and they are finding it in the presence of God not just in Hamilton Alabama at the Ramp but every where that the Spirit of God is being allowed to move in the way that He chooses in these last days. If I may quote one of the incredible young ladys from Chosen, she said just as when we go to war in the natural our intelligence is constantly increasing in the form of weapon production. We are not fighting in Iraq with the same equipment that we fought with during Vietnam, that would be crazy, its a different war. Maybe three songs out of the Hymnal on Sunday morning and a good bless me message worked for me when I was growing up but I wasnt facing the pressure of sex and drugs and killings and abortions and all the other junk that teenagers are facing in this day. Why are we fighting todays battles with yesterdays weapons? Karen Wheaton is raising up a generation that will stand in the presence of the enemy and not back down but fight to the end. Those young people are some of the most humble people I have ever met, if you havent met them, you dont qualify to talk against them. They have a pure hunger for God, yes they are stirring up religious spirits all around the world. Religion didnt accept Jesus for who He was, do you really think Mrs. Karen expects religion to accept her, better yet do you really think she cares? She is not a cult leader and she does not make kids throw demons up before they come into the Ramp for a service, but the demons do seem to disappear when the presences of God hits that place. PBeavr I hope youre right and I hope that this move of God does overwhelm the south and the north and the east and the west and the four corners of the world.

Sold out7! We aren't the ones saying TBN is teaching a False Teachings,My Bible Does...Karen's Very talented surely Glorifys God with it, but needs to Discern TBN!

I believe that Karen Wheaton is an annointed woman of God. I am blessed everytime I see her. As for the rude comments made about her, who are we to sit around and judge her? Who are we to say that TBN has false teachings? We need to stop trying to take the role of God into our own hands. Thanks to Karen Wheaton and her youth for not following the world but for following our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

The female Robert Schuller is all I gotta say. She is more intrested in entertainment rather than actually preaching the gospel of JESUS CHRIST.

I think you who proclaim to be christian's....need to go into a corner and repent....the Lord said let all the little childern come on to him...most kids now days and adults...are promoting so much sex and immoral conduct that it's not even funny....I agree this is for the childern...but i think instead of it being in the church house...it should be on our worldly tv stations and radio.....not to say it isn't of God...but to say we need MORE music like this and kids dressed and acting moral...not half naked,short, or tight sexy looking clothes or dances,....it's just sick how this world to day is....And all you old grumpy and lustful ppl can do is back-bite....slander and put down her and these kids for trying to do God.....How well do you think God is pleased with you?.....They aren't asking for your money! You don't mine buying...worldly music,movies,sexy clothes...or pornish things!...How rich you think you are making the devil?....The Bibles says do everything you do to the Glory of God....ARE YOU?