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War on Iraq

reviewed by EschewObfuscation

EschewObfuscat ion
09/24/2008

War on Iraq 5

It is probably one of THE most important issues of the day yet so many rate it in the mediocre range. Gosh, there are anti-war demonstrations in Washington, just like the liberal-dominated 1960's! Well, maybe not quite so many protestors but you'd never know it by the media coverage, you'd think these were bigger than the Vietnam protests! The fact is that the anti-war movement in the US is barely on life support but for the overblown media coverage of tiny events like Cindy Sheehan's inconsequential and incoherent demonstration against President Bush. Nobody cares except for a few left-wing zealots (most of whom actually ARE American journalists) who would protest ANY war (except one started by Bill Clinton) and ANYTHING George Bush has done. The shameful truth is that while they broadcast daily the body count of American Servicemen, no such body count was even recorded when Clinton went into Kosovo, in similar defiance of the United Nations. How quickly they forget. What sickens me is the tone of "alright, another 5 Americans killed! Man, I can't wait to get to 2,000! How 'bout you? " by the American press and the liberal wing-nuts. I'm not crazy about the War in Iraq. But, I much prefer IT to the lame-ass reaction of Clinton whose blustery rhetoric was as empty as his soul turned out to be. "We'll bring those responsible to justice! " he assured us, and promptly did absolutely nothing because the stupid poll numbers wouldn't budge. Now, in contrast, you have an American President who has unleashed the American Military on those who slaughtered so many innocents on 9/11/01 and in a dozen other incidents under Clinton's watch. The daily casualty count should be a reminder of what dangerous times we live in, what a murderous and vile enemy we face (who kill innocents and behead hostages) and how desperately they would love to bring the carnage to our own shores and conduct it here. But no, it's used as a tool to weaken the will of those enjoying the safety provided by the sacrifice of those brave soldiers in harm's way. Keep protesting, useful idiots, and keep publicizing the body count. Great journalism.

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magellan commented 430 days ago.
EO, Iraq didn't slaughter any innocents on 9/11/01. Right?

Automatt commented 430 days ago.
There's very little reporting at all of any of the wars the US is fighting. I guess from your rant you'd prefer that they didn't report the number of Americans killed in action. I'm not sure why you think that isn't news.

EschewObfuscation commented 430 days ago.
The reason, Mr. Beginner, is that they post the war dead ONLY for the war in Iraq, not for the war in Afghanistan, which, you'll be surprised to realize, is being conducted simultaneously. Like right now. Does their sacrifice matter not at all? Look, the only reason to post the number of casualties is to break the spirit of the American people for this war. It worked during the Vietnam War. mag, only 19 people slaughtered innocents on 9/11. Afghanistan didn't slaughter any either. If you'll recall, the "Axis of Evil" included N. Korea, Iran AND Iraq. Was there a lot of dissention about that triumvirate at the time? Al Qaeda was a terrorist organization with "worldwide reach. " Was Iraq the only country in the world they were not? I'm so tired of the weakness of that argument.

Automatt commented 430 days ago.
"they post the war dead ONLY for the war in Iraq, not for the war in Afghanistan" That's just wrong. Look here: http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/

magellan commented 430 days ago.
OK EO. You win. Iraq was a good idea. President Bush has done a good job. The peace and prosperity of the Clinton years sucked. Palin is qualified to be President, and nobody should be allowed to ask her any questions. Have a good night.

EschewObfuscation commented 430 days ago.
I don't do the url thing since fitman has been around but, if you want to make a compelling argument about balance in the news, you might look up how often CNN posts them each. How often they posted the Kosovo tallies. CNN, MSNBC, the three "major" networks. Do the research and state the figures. Don't try to send me to some slanted, single example. The war started in March of '03. You find one example in five years and call it a trend.

fitman commented 430 days ago.
The Obfuscator enjoys making strawman arguments and ridiculous assumptions about those who disagree with his partisan rants. (I called Clinton, "Bomber Bill" when he was in power, and I voted for Bob Dole in protest.) The Bush administration knows how important keeping news of the killed and maimed [in their unjust war] off the TV screens of America. That's why they sneak the coffins in and try to make sure you don't get to see pictures like this: http://tinyurl.com/yuplo

EschewObfuscation commented 430 days ago.
As I have often stated, the jury is (and should be) still out on the Iraq War. The absence of any (ANY) terrorist attacks in the US since 9/11/01 cannot be ignored. The peace and prosperity of the Clinton years was nice but we neglected foreign policy for 8 years and paid a terrible price for our slumber. I agree that Palin is no more or less qualified to be president than is Barack Obama, Joe Biden and/or John McCain. And Bill Clinton. And Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Each of us goes into the voting booth and pulls a lever. And several reporters HAVE asked Palin questions. What do you want? I'm having a good night. Thanks.

EschewObfuscation commented 430 days ago.
Ah, fitman's here. Now everything will make sense.

Automatt commented 430 days ago.
the Washington post has not just the numbers, but the names and faces of every serviceman killed since 2003. I guess I can understand why you'd be afraid to look.

EschewObfuscation commented 429 days ago.
Fear? Right. Again proving the point. Your point: we should surrender because people have been killed. No geopolitical thought, no logic, nothing but emotional defeatism. Very compelling. And I'm talking about the ENTIRE MEDIA, not one source. Anyone got a chisel? The fact that ONE SOURCE, ON ONE DAY!!! posts this DOES NOT argue the point. Is there any chance of that point sinking in?
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