Exactly.

Thanks for admitting that global warming is happening. Now we could actually debate the causes of it, which Vic had been loath to do.

I don't follow. So AndrayK, even if human behavior is causing a radical change in the environment, you think the right thing to do is to "roll with the punches?" I think most folks, even the partisan right, would say that if there were indisputable evidence that our behavior is screwing up the environment to the point that it threatens our way of life, we should change our behavior. Did I misunderstand you?

...IF there were indisputable evidence that our behavior is screwing up the environment to the point that it threatens our way of life, we should change our behavior. Did I misunderstand you? I think you've hit it on the head!!! IF Where's the proof? Faulty and suspect figures? I doubt if ANYONE doubts the reality of global warming anymore. The debate is over WHAT is ACTUALLY CAUSING IT. Can we take the chance that it is a natural phenomenon? Most people do not believe anything we do to change will result in anything meaningful and ARE NOT WILLING TO PAY FOR ANOTHER EXPENSIVE BOONDOGLE as they have seen to many already! And there you have it..the real reason for resistance. Fudged figures by zealots do not make science.