If you aren't a member and you haven't sat down with the Pastor or the Business Manager and seen all the current figures, then be silent until you have done so. That is THE ONLY WAY that you will ever know for sure. Do yourself a favor and bridle your tongue-- you are only making yourself look foolish. It's a little ironic for you to advise someone not to judge the spiritual condition of a church that they are actively a part of when you are judging it from the outside. I have been at Destiny since 2001, and it has never been as much alive as it is today. If you would truly find your identity in Christ, you would have no need to come on here and attempt to edify yourself by attacking others. If the victims of your tongue are truly wrong, God will handle them, and if YOU are wrong, then God will continue to bless them. Either way, nothing you say or do can change God's will or His Word, so you're fighting an uphill battle. From your own advice, you need to "move on" and quit repeating the lies that you are spreading which obviously aren't inspired by the Holy Spirit. I'm certain that you think I'm an idiot, but I serve my God in everything I do, and I don't care what other people think or have to say about that. Honestly, I'm trying to help you out here because your thoughts and comments are geared toward dividing the church which is a strategy of the enemy. God has commanded us to combat evil with love, so if you really believe that these people are so evil, then why are you handling it the way the devil would rather than walking in love? =)