I have purchased several older Bouviers from this wonderful family. I have seen where the dogs are kept and the conditions of these wonderful dogs, and I have to disagree. I am on my 3rd dog from them and am honored that they would even sell me a dog. They have been wonderul to help me with everything from boarding, grooming and training of my pets! I have been treated with nothing but respect from them and their staff. I do know that when I have purchased all of my older Bouviers ( from 1 year to 5 yrs) they take time to adjust, but have never been mis-treated by anymeans. Not only do I continue to use their services, but have recomended several freinds with other types of dogs and have never heard a complaint. I would srongly reccomend them and will now and forever use their services.