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Les Feldick

reviewed by LWH

Les Feldick hosts "Through the Bible."

LWH
05/28/2008

Les Feldick 5

Les Feldick writes: In Book 30 LESSON THREE * PART I, --- It's not that we have to repent… I can't find any of this in Paul's letter to the Church Age believers. It's not in here...---Paul did say and write to the Church age believer:---(Acts 17:30)---True, God has overlooked the times of such ignorance, yet now he is telling mankind that they should all everywhere repent. See also---(Acts 20:21, Acts 26:20, Romans 2:4, 2 Corinthians 7:10, & 2 Timothy 2:23-26)---

& in Book 23 LESSON THREE * PART II---Can a TRUE Christian fall from grace? (3c)--- Would God elect someone who somewhere down the road would chose to reject Him? I can't see it happening,... We are totally, and I can't emphasize this enough; we are totally under the power of the Sovereign God, and nobody can supersede his power."
We never maintain our assurance of Salvation and security because of … what we have done. That is never part of the picture. Everything that keeps us secure is that finished work of the Christ.

So, Can a TRUE Christian fall from grace? That sounds like it should be a NO.

Until you hear God’s Word at Hebrews 6:4-6 -(most likely written by Paul)
(ASV Hebrews 6:4, 5) For as touching those who were once enlightened and tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the age to come, (a TRUE Christian? & v6) and [then] fell away, it is impossible to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

--- Les Feldick says: I CAN'T SEE it happening,---That is NEVER part of the picture.---It certainly looks like the Holy inspired Word of God says they can.

To whom will you listen?

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abbagail commented 559 days ago.
My first thought would be: How OLD is "Book 30" where Les said that? I know when they began re-running his original shows from around 1992, I would hear a comment or two from those early years, that I had heard him explain it different in the much later years (remember, he's been on TV for what, now, 16-17-18 years?) My point is, maybe he "learned better later" down the line but you were reading something he said in previous years. -- Also, he MAY BE referring to the fact that Christ died ONCE for ALL SINS for ALL TIME, and in that way our sins are forgiven whether we ask or not, because the doorway to SALVATION is that we MUST believe that Christ DIED for our sins, was crucified, buried, and then raised on the 3rd day. -- Even so, I have no qualms about asking for forgiveness for everyday sins. It keeps us humble. ;-) -- Another thought: Repentence actually means TURNING AROUND and going in the OPPOSITE direction, making a U-turn, so to speak. Most people, myself included, always thought "repenting" meant getting on your knees and begging and pleading w/God to forgive me/us. But it actually means just TURN AROUND and quit doing what you are doing that is sinful. So take all those great verses you included, and everywhere the word "repent/repentence" is, insert the phrase, "TURN AROUND from your present life course and TURN TOWARD God..." and see how they read. Makes sense. -- Finally, why not call Les and ask him outright, offering the above scriptures you included? That's one great thing about his ministry, you can actually get him on the phone...

floorlady41 commented 559 days ago.
Repent means change of mind. If we still ask for forgiveness in this age of grace, then we are still in our sins. Every sin we have comitted were in the past 2000 years ago when He died for them. Every human being's sins were forgiven at Cavalry. That's the sad part about it. Most will not believe the truth because our unbelief is the only thing sending people to Hell today in the age of grace. We are forgiven for past, present and future sins. He remembers them no more. Period. We are leaning on traditions instead of the word of God.

LWH commented 559 days ago.
I too, am a believer in the Word of God. His word is the last word on the matter. It sets all things straight. My Lord Jesus has made it final when he says: (Matthew 12:31) Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. In addition to this statement, He also says REPENT eight times to the Congregations. See Revelation 2:5, 16, 21, 22, 3:3, 19 Les Feldick word is: Well I can't find any of this in Paul's letter to the Church Age believers. It's not in here See how Paul reveals Gods good news at: Acts 17:30 repent Acts 20:21 repentance Acts 26:20 repent Romans 2:4 repentance 2 Corinthians 7:10 repentance 2 Timothy 2:23-26 repentance

ByHimOnly commented 558 days ago.
Actually Paul never says anywhere in addressing the church we need to ask for forgiveness. What he does say is that we are forgiven and to forgive one another likewise. And if we are not forgiven for the sins of tomorrow and need to ask for forgiveness, we're in big trouble. But thank God ALL the believer's sins are taken care of. What the Christian should do instead of constantly asking God for forgiveness is to do what Paul says Colossians,(Read Colossians 3).

LWH commented 558 days ago.
YOU SAY-----Paul never says anywhere in addressing the church we need to ask for forgiveness------ NEED TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS -------I READ AT ACTS 17:30-------The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked; but now he commandeth men that they should all everywhere repent-------THIS IS PAULS STATEMENT.------- IF THIS IS TRANSLATED CORRECTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE A COMMAND FROM GOD TO THE MEN OF ATHENS AS A CALL TO COME TO THE CHRIST, AND SOME DID BELIEVE, AND TOOK ACTION TO BECOME FOLLOWERS OF THE WAY.

fitman commented 558 days ago.
Yeshua tried really hard to explain [to his contemporaries in western Asia] how the laws of the universe work. Repentence is the price of forgiveness. Jesus ain't handin' out GET-OUT-OF-HELL-FREE cards to unrepentent sinners. Folks who buy that nonsense are just wishful thinking.

grace+nothing commented 558 days ago.
Jesus finished work at Calvary paid for all sin. We have been forgiven ALL tresspasses and sins. It's not opinion, it is the word of God. Jesus was talking to Israel under the law. In one verse of the bible it says Jesus repented. Did he have to turn from sin? No, He had no sin. Failing to rightly divide the scripture only brings confusion.

LWH commented 558 days ago.
YOU SAY---In one verse of the bible it says Jesus repented.---WHERE IS THAT ONE VERSE? ALL I DID WAS CALL TO MIND ACTS 17:30-------The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked; but now he commandeth men that they should all everywhere repent-------THIS IS PAULS STATEMENT. IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THERE IS A COMMAND FROM GOD TO REPENT. IT IS TO PEOPLE OF THE NATIONS, NOT UNDER THE LAW OF ISRAEL. HOW IS THAT CAUSEING---confusion?

ByHimOnly commented 557 days ago.
And what does the word repent mean LWH? Paul is not calling men to ask God to forgive their sins or to continue to ask for forgiveness. The word repent means to change ones mind. The meaning of repent has been so twisted around to mean everything for remorse for sin, to forsaking one's sins (good luck with that one), to turning ones life around. What people do is add to what the word repent means. But the word truely translated, without someones implications or preconceived notions, simply means to change ones mind. Whether Paul was preaching to the Athenians or whoever he was trying to get people to change their minds (repent) and believe the one thing that had eternal consequences, and that is to believe the gospel of their salvation. (Eph 1:14-14). Everyone who comes to a saving faith and changed his mind--he has repented of what he used to believe (which may have been next to nothing) and now believes the good news of his salvation thru the Lord Jesus Christ. It really irritates me when people find some clever way to add to, as Les would say, "faith in the gospel plus nothing". Jesus Christ has finished the work of our salvation and their is nothing we can add but to believe the good news. Don't insult God by adding something else like works or our good intentions.

LWH commented 557 days ago.
YOU SAY---And what does the word repent mean? I am bring this to mind only because Les Fildick, and some of the ones that listen to him, are saying that there is no need to repent. I am not offering a definition for the word --- REPENT --- (I do understand that many are distorting what is meant by it, but that is for our Lord to straighten out) --- You say -- The word repent means to change ones mind. That is find if me. If I substitute that meaning in the statements that Les is making, it would read like this: --- It's not that we have to change ones mind,--- If I substitute that meaning in the statements that Paul is making, it would read like this: --- The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked; but now he commandeth men that they should all everywhere change ones mind.--- Let all that minister the word of our God, first of all, tell the truth. If the definition (opinions as to the meaning) is what the problem is, I pray that all turn to the God of heaven as we are invited in the letter --- From James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ. To God's faithful people who have been scattered. ---------- But if any of you lacketh wisdom, let him ask of God, who giveth to all liberally and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. ------- So again, Les Fildick is saying that there is no need to repent. And I can't find any of this in Paul's letter to the Church Age believers. It's not in here. I have shown from the word of God that it is in there. Now if some are trying to say that Jesus shed blood paid ALL of the price needed for God to give us everlasting LIFE, and if we believe that God raised Jesus from the tomb to prove that the death of His son was different than the death of any other man, (Jesus was not guilty of any sin of his own), that God accepted his death as payment for us to be relieved of any payment for our own sins (our own death would be the payment) and that although the command to repent is in the Bible, and part of the good news to the gentiles, it is not a required part of the reconciliation, then I would like to say that it looks like some are trying to shave this down to hairline proportions as to what is required of us that believe in the reconciliation. Paul said --- to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, doing works worthy of repentance. (Acts 26:20) -- DOING WORKS WORTHY OF REPENTANCE If anyone believes in this reconciliation work of our God, it should show as being different than those who do not believe. IT IS IN THERE DOING WORKS WORTHY OF REPENTANCE does not insult God.

LWH commented 557 days ago.
While I was looking over the PLAN FOR HEAVEN from www.lesfeldick.org/plan4hvn.html It was noticed that Les used ROMANS 10:8-13 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. ---and in other places I see the formula of --- (faith+nothing=salvation) --- If this is a correct English translation of the Greek --- it looks like Paul is saying CONFESS with thy mouth (a work) + BELIEVE in thine heart (faith) = SAVED. Then restating Paul says BELIEVETH unto righteousness AND (plus) with CONFESSION unto SALVATION. ------- Does that look like (faith+confession=salvation)????? Confession would be a work worthy of repentance and would not be an insult to God.

ByHimOnly commented 556 days ago.
I think your problem LWH is that you are taking Acts, which is historical and not a doctrinal book, and trying to make it define everything else that Paul say about faith and salvation. "Works of repentance" (Acts 17) can be a characterisic, but are in no way a condition or requirement for salvation. In Roman 10, Paul is concerned with Jews, so he speaks what they would relate to. He is saying, don't say who will ascent or descend. The Jews were warned in Deuteronomy not to say this. The Jews may have believed it and said it, but it was not true. Instead, Paul gives them something true to believe in their hearts and say that will saved them. That Jesus is Lord, and God raised him from the dead. Paul is not insisting that their saving faith must include vocal confession. When conveying the message of salvation Paul used different methods with different groups, but in all cases he insisted on one common denominator to receive salvation: faith in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord for our salvation. This and this alone brings the gift of salvation. Now rather that further argue with, you let me suggest a couple of things: 1. Please tell us what all you did to be saved and stay saved. 2. Write, phone or email Les Feldick with your Acts 17 repentance concerns that you have expressed here rather than us here just trying to explain everything he says. I think that Les would be more that happy to respond to you. I have written to Les and he responded to me.

LWH commented 556 days ago.
I DID NOT TRY TO DEFINE ANYTHING. OTHERS HAVE BUT I HAVE NOT. Most are aware that Luke wrote the book of Acts of Apostles and it most likely did not include all that the Apostles did, and said, as that would have made for a much lager book. To dismiss what Luke does record, as Paul ministered to the nations, would look like it is TAKING AWAY from the word of God. To try to redefine what Paul meant by the statements --- to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, doing works worthy of repentance. (Acts 26:20) --- looks like an attempt to TWIST WHAT IS SAID to fit the smallest list that can be made as to what is REQUIRED to be saved when Paul clearly is not listing minimum requirements. ------- Les has said that ----- I can't find any of this in Paul's letter to the Church Age believers. It's not in here ------- PAUL WRITES in his letter at 2 Corinthians 7:10 --- For sadness in a godly way makes for REPENTANCE TO SALVATION that is not to be regretted; but the sadness of the world produces death. ------- PAUL WRITES in his letter to the Romans (2:4) --- Or do you despise the riches of his kindness and forbearance and long-suffering, because you do not know that the kindly [quality] of GOD IS TRYING TO LEAD YOU TO REPENTANCE? ------- PAUL WRITES (2 Timothy 2:23-26) Further, turn down foolish and ignorant questionings, knowing they produce fights. But a slave of the Lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle toward all, qualified to teach, keeping himself restrained under evil, instructing with mildness those not favorably disposed; as perhaps GOD MAY GIVE THEM REPENTANCE leading to an accurate knowledge of truth, and they may come back to their proper senses out from the snare of the Devil, seeing that they have been caught alive by him for the will of that one. ------- To make definitive statements that --- I can't find any of this in Paul's letter --- (about the need to repent) --- is to show that after years of teaching Les still has a lack of knowledge of what PAUL DID WRITE --- and --- It's NOT in here, --- is to teach what is NOT TRUE. IT IS IN THERE ------- If Paul did not include the need to REPENT or the need to CONFESS in every discourse and every letter, let it also be noted that he did not include the need not to get circumcised in every discourse and every letter either, and that absence does not mean that in those cases it is good to get circumcised because Paul did not say not to do that in that one letter. It is the whole of all of the Holy Writings that make for truth and not the minimum of any one letter that sets the standard.

LWH commented 555 days ago.
It seems to me that it is being suggested that when Paul wrote his letter to the Romans it is to be understood that some of it was for the Jews only and some of it was to the Gentiles, and the part that was for the Jews does not apply to the Gentiles. ------- YOU SAY --- Paul is concerned with Jews, so he speaks what they (the Jews only not the Gentiles) would relate to. Paul gives them (the Jews only not the Gentiles) something true to believe in their (the Jews only not the Gentiles) hearts and say that will saved them (the Jews only not the Gentiles). That Jesus is Lord, and God raised him from the dead. Paul is not insisting that their (the Jews only not the Gentiles) saving faith must include vocal confession. ------- WHO DIVIDES THE MESSAGE? PAUL DID NOT SHOW A DIVISION. Paul says, --- For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek --- Again, it looks like an attempt to TWIST WHAT IS SAID BY PAUL to fit the formula (faith+nothing=salvation) when Paul clearly is saying something other than that. Paul says BELIEVETH (faith) unto righteousness AND (plus) with CONFESSION (a work) unto SALVATION. ------- ROMANS 10:8-13 ------- This is NOT a work of the Law of Moses, this would be a work WORTHY OF REPENTANCE. Our actions will always speak louder that any words we think. It (our faith) should show in the actions that we do. It (our faith) is not hidden from the world. Paul says --- We are ambassadors therefore on behalf of Christ, as though God were entreating by us: we beseech you on behalf of Christ, be ye reconciled to God. --- (2 Corinthians 5:20) I think it (our faith) should be noticed as we are ambassadors for the Christ while we are in the world around us because ------- my brethren, ye also were made dead to the law through the body of Christ; that ye should be joined to another, even to him who was raised from the dead, that we might bring forth fruit unto God. (Romans 7:4) ------- Paul says BELIEVETH (faith) unto righteousness AND (plus) with CONFESSION (a work) unto SALVATION. Let the world see our faith.

ByHimOnly commented 554 days ago.
So LWH, could you tell us about all the repenting and works of repentance you did in order to be saved? Perhaps you could give us a list of what we need to do and believe in order to meet the qualifications to receive eternal life. If you are not sure how to receive eternal salvation, I will be happy to explain how receive everlasting life in Christ.

LWH commented 554 days ago.
This review was on the statements made by Les Feldick ------- It's not that we have to repent (turn around or change ones mind) ------- and ------- he can't find any of this in Paul's letter to the Church Age believers. It's not in here. ------- Will anyone acknowledge, now, that PAUL DID TELL THE GENTILES and the Jews that GOD COMMANDETH that they should ALL EVERWHERE REPENT ------- Luke bears witness to this truth by recording Paul speech to the Gentiles at what we now call Acts 17:30 ------- Luke again records that PAUL THOROUGHLY BORE WITNESS both to Jews and TO GREEKS about REPENTANCE toward God AND FAITH in our Lord Jesus. [REPENTANCE + FAITH] This can be found at what we now call Acts 20:21 -------- and TO THE NATIONS Paul went bringing the message that THEY SHOULD REPENT and turn to God BY DOING WORKS THAT BEFIT REPENTANCE. Acts 26:20 ------- And PAUL WROTE IN LETTERS to the ROMANS (trying to lead you to REPENTANCE), his second to the CORINTHIANS (sadness in a godly way makes for REPENTANCE TO SALVATION), AND his second to TIMOTHY (God may give them REPENTANCE) -------- IT IS IN THERE! -------- Argue and twist all you want to about what it means but IT IS IN THERE! -------- As far as telling about me, this is not about who I am or what I do, it is about what Les Feldick has said. ------- Let it be known, however, I am a believer in the shed blood of my Lord Jesus (the Son of God; the Christ; the one that The Spirit of the Lord Jehovah anointed to preach good tidings unto the meek; the one sent to bind up the broken-hearted; the one that shed his blood for me), and I believe that God raised Him from the dead and gave Him All authority in heaven and on earth. And because I unconditionally accept this reconciliation, I have turned from thinking that I can know Right from Wrong, Good from Evil, and I hearkened (to the best of my ability, with all of my strength, all of my vital force, and all of my heart) unto the voice of my God only. May we always give thanks to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Colossians 1:3)

ByHimOnly commented 554 days ago.
LWH, you say you believe Christ shed his blood for you and was raised from the dead to reconcile you. Can you not just accept and rest in this wonderful news that you will be eternally with the Lord? And because of this you can your life for Christ, and do good works--not to be saved, but in love and gratitude for Christ having given you the gift of salvation?

LWH commented 553 days ago.
To go to great lengths to shave between what is ALL THAT IS NEEDED TO BE SAVED and what is NOT REQUIRED seems to be why Paul wrote ---(2 Timothy 2:23-26)--- Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will. ------- Even repentance can be viewed as a gift from God. ------- Paul is giving the warning that there is a TRAP or SNARE and some will be TAKEN CAPTIVE by the Devil in fighting over STUPID ARGUMENTS. ------- For someone to make the bold claim that --- It's not that we have to repent, --- I can't find any of this in Paul's letter to the Church Age believers. It's not in here. --- why not just say it the way our LORD says, --- "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven [will enter]. ------- Now some might conclude that it can be understood --- Not everyone (but certainly some might) who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does (and maybe some that dont do because they believe that they are not required to do) the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. And when Paul said, --- and TO THE NATIONS I went bringing the message that THEY SHOULD REPENT and turn to God BY DOING WORKS THAT BEFIT REPENTANCE. (recorded at Acts 26:20) that Paul should, maybe have said --- and TO THE NATIONS I went bringing the message that THEY SHOULD (but they do not really have to) REPENT and turn to God BY DOING WORKS THAT BEFIT REPENTANCE (even though it is not really required). --- Do you see that this kind of argument is redirecting the thoughts, of some, into making quarrels within the body of those that are believers, when they should be able to gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance? If some are of the opinion that they are never going to be able to do the will of God good enough to get saved, then they need to hear, and believe, that all things are possible with the Lord, and as 1 Peter 5:10 assures us --- God, the giver of all grace, who has called you to share His eternal glory, through Christ, after you have suffered for a short time, will Himself make you perfect, firm, and strong. --- It is not in our own strength that we will be saved, but it looks like we are to at least try to do His will. Believe in the value of the shed blood of the Son of God, repent of (turn away from) our own determination, and tell others about it. God will finish His work within us. What is so difficult?

ByHimOnly commented 553 days ago.
Someone may have told me, don't get into the same foxhole with a legalist. They only see grace through veil of the Law.

LWH commented 553 days ago.
I sure feel sorry, also, for anyone that still believes they can live (survive, exist) only if they do works of law. ------- The building of our House on the Rock (by HEARING AND DOING the word of our Lord) will allow for it to stand (not collapse, not fall, survive) through the storm, while the collapse of the one that HEARS BUT DOES NOT DO His will, will be great. I am thankful for the knowledge, and I am more than willing to heed His instructions, to go to all that will listen, teaching them to observe (to do, to obey) all things whatsoever HE COMMANDED. I look to an eternity of REAL LIFE not just continued mere existence.

LWH commented 550 days ago.
Can it be accepted that Paul DID say and write to Church Age believers about the COMMAND FROM God that they should ALL EVERYWHERE REPENT, and That REPENTANCE IS IN THERE?

LWH commented 550 days ago.
If it does exist, I never heard back about the one verse of the bible that says Jesus repented.---WHERE IS THAT ONE VERSE?

floorlady41 commented 549 days ago.
This is where God repented. It means he changed his mind. 1Ch 21:15 And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.

LWH commented 548 days ago.
Some translations do say that the LORD repented, at 1 Chronicles 21:15, but many other translations are also legitimate. Was sorry, changed his mind, had regret, relented, is comforted concerning, was grieved, took pity, felt very sorry, was very sad, had pity, felt sorry, considered it, had compassion, felt regret, took the evil to heart, are but a few other ways that this Hebrew word, at 1 Chronicles 21:15, has been translated, other than repented. ------- This wider range of the meaning of the word REPENT does not, in any way, change the statements that Les Feldick has said about the need to repent, such as Paul did not teach it nor write to the gentiles about it, and that it is not in here. Use the definition that you prefer and it is still the same point; ------- PAUL TAUGHT THAT THERE IS A COMMAND FROM GOD TO REPENT & WE SHOULD BE DOING WORKS WORTHY OF REPENTANCE, --- PAUL DID WRITE ABOUT IT TO THE GENTILES. --- IT IS IN THERE!

LWH commented 547 days ago.
There is a wide effort to establish what the word repent might mean but little acceptance that Paul DID say, and write, to Church Age believers about the COMMAND FROM God that they should ALL EVERYWHERE REPENT, and That REPENTANCE IS IN THERE? The truth will set you free.

graceplusnothing commented 372 days ago.
LWH is just like the Pharisees. It's always about what you can do for God not what He has already done for us. It's all about pride. None of your works will make you saved, only being covered by His blood.
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