The devil has many names; satan, the dragon, the serpent and death. The earth is not 6 thousand years old. The dinosaurs were in the first earth age! Even scientists will tell you that the earth and dinosaurs are older then Adam and Eve! The problem is that most people don't study the Bible and realize that words have several meanings in the Greek and Hebrew. And things are not compartmentalize; there is skipping around as in real conversations. God will talk about satan and the first earth age in the old testament as well as the new! There is a great deal of figurative language as well! The Bible is a book one must believe is the words of God and the Word of God and really study it! I have heard so many lies about PM that he is a racist and he is a gun toting fanatic, but at least you have a true misunderstanding of what he teaches! People need to step out and take a chance and really check out his teaching. He says he's not hard up for students. You don't like what he teaches, fine, but at least give it a sincere chance!

You may want to read more, understand more, so that you don't mislead others. Just because you have been mislead is no excuse. You will be held accountable for your every word. YOU and ALL Including Myself will be held accountable for EVERY word that we preach to others. Jeremiah 12:10 Jeremiah 2:8 Jeremiah 13:10 You will additional warning in many other places... When you take a part of what someone tells you and add what YOU THINK or someone else THINKS you get farther and farther away from Father's word. It is no longer Father's word but YOURS, and If YOU are wrong YOU WILL BE THE ONE THAT COSTS MANY, everything....

Back to your Satan Fathering Cain through EVE: Ge 4:1 - And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. She believed that she has been impregnated by the Lord, What does the Bible and Jesus tell us about this... Joh 8:44 - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Satan Lied To Eve (Big Surprise). If you are of the seed of the devil as Cain was, and his children are, you will follow the lusts of your father. The truth is that even one of the Kenites (Children of Cain) can find Jesus and be saved. The Bible tells us that specifically that Cain is the son of the wicked one. 1Jo 3:12 - Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. Lets check in Father's word to see who exactly the wicked one is. Mt 13:38 - The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;Father tells us that the wicked one has children that are called tares. Cain is one of the tares (children of the wicked one). Do you want to know what the secret is that Jesus revealed to us? Mt 13:35 - That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Mt 13:36 - Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. Mt 13:37 - He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; Mt 13:38 - The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; Mt 13:39 - The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. Father told us that the tares have a purpose. When Jesus was asked if he wanted them to be gathered up do you want to know what he said? Mt 13:28 - He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?Do Not gather them because you might gather one of the wheat by mistake. Mt 13:29 - But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Mt 13:30 - Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Eve would have lost her virginity while conceiving her first child. The first child that was born of Eve was Cain whose father was not Adam. Eve's second child was Able who was murdered by Cain. Ge 3:13 - Show Context And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. Lets do a little research, when you go to the transcripts and locate "I did eat" we will find the word AKAL Hebrew #398 the definition is "To Lay With" The specific word appears a few other places in the bible, lets find them and see if we are able to better understand the context. Pr 30:20 - Show Context Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness. Pr 9:17 - Show Context Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. Pr 6:26 - Show Context For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life. Pr 6:29 - Show Context So he that goeth in to his neighbour's wife; whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent. Pr 6:30 - Show Context Men do not despise a thief, if he steal to satisfy his soul when he is hungry; Nu 25:2 - Show Context And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their gods: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their gods. Ge 3:13 - Show Context And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. 2Co 11:3 - Show Context But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

When Adam listed his family he did not list his first child Able because he was not alive. Adam did not list Cain because he was not one of his children. Adam knew his wife again and she bare Seth: Ge 4:25 - Show Context And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. ------------ Fallen angels had children with Adam's daughters(Gen6)(Jude) Satan is a fallen angel(Job)(Isa)(Eze) Satan was in the Garden(Gen)(Eze) Satan "fully seduced" Eve..beguiled(Genesis 3; 2 Corinthians 11:3; 1 Timothy 2:14) Satan as the Serpent-named so figuratively for his brilliant shiny skin- has seed or offspring(Gen3:15) Adam and Eve covered their genitalia, not their mouths. The commandment Eve repeats, and then adds to by stating "neither shall we touch it" touch is a euphemism meaning to lie sexually with... See the very next usage of the word touch in the bible. This point should be becoming clearer now. So, God destroys the Giants, the offspring of the Sons of God who are the fallen angels, as we are told in the flood...the reason for the flood. Cain's lineage separate from Adam's, not listed as Adam's first born son or son at all. Cain's lineage detailed to the flood. Later on in the Word, Giants make an appearance, as we are told about in Gen 6. Also the Kenites(Cain's sons) and descendants must have survived the flood, for they are there after it 1 Chr 2:55. Back to Eve. She is named by Adam. Adam names her Eve because she is pregnant. She is named Eve before Adam "knows" her.(another euphemism that most people see). Therefor she is already pregnant before Adam "knows" her. Cain and Abel are twins, opposite in spirit. Cain a murderer and Abel righteous. Cain goes east and marries (someone that is not of his race for there were no women of his race yet), starts a family, builds a city. That city is Babylon. See Rev for further comparison. So, Kenites are not in the line to Christ. They are separate, not Hebrew, not from Jacob who is Israel. Not of the 12 tribes. This is a fact. Yet, they sneak in and are counted among Judah during a cencus. See 1Chr2:55. They are the scribes. The scribes are the main earthly force behind the crucifiction of Christ. And most Christians think that the Jews killed Him but in reality it was the scribe kenites, masquerading as Jews. See Rev2/3 for the 'synagog of Satan', the central theme spoken of by Christ to the 2(of 7) churches that Christ is happy with. The use trickery to save them self, and end up working for the priests, eventually they wear Priest's robes. Josh 9:4-6,11-15,22-27 Ex 34:12 Ezr 8:15 Deu 2:25 Rev 2:9 Rev 3:9 ------ These are my words so treat them accordingly: Would you agree that a woman would be a virgin until she has sex. If the first time she has sex she has a child. Do you think that the father of the first child would be the first that had sex with her (Cain was the 1st child). After she learned of sex and went to Adam and if she taught him what she learned and if it was sex, and if they did and the result that Adam had Able. The result would be Paternity Testing: Twins With Different Fathers. Since the secret that Jesus revealed (Mt 13:35+) to us confirms that Satan had children, and Cain was the 1st murderer how could you so easily go against scripture? Sorry about the long letter, but this is important.

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JLP, you are still correct on everything. So many of Arnolds teachings are contradictory,not only to the word of God,but also to HIS OWN teachings.I could write pages myself, but that doesn't prove I'm right...the Holy Spirit does.I'm not sure if I would consider Arnold an icredibly PROUD, false teacher; or maybe just someone who has been taught falsly himself at one time,and mistakenly believes he's in the right. Thanks for your post. Larry

God created all the races on the 6th day yes, but on the 8th day He formed Adam ,now Eve had only 2 sons at the time, one -Cain by- Satan and Abel by Adam, and when Cain murdered Abel, then Cain was ordered out of the garden, he went to the land of NOD and took him a wife, (now think about this)-- she had to be from A 6th day creation because Eve had no daughters at that time he took a wife in the land of NOD. See how simple it all is if you just listen to the WORDS???

now God chose Eve especially for Adam because through her lineage Christ would come, this making her the mother of all living meaning we could have eternal life through Christ through repentance .Not that she was the literal mother of every race on the earth. Understand???

OK, am new to this, but, I am proudly a Student of the SC, in Gravette, Ar. and this has been a real test for me to just read all these terrable things being said about My Pastor. I 1st started out many yrs. ago, prob. close to 15 now, thinking at 5a.m. "This guy is just an old fart", but, after I kept turning the channels, I always came back to The teaching! of Pastor Murray. on the Word. The key word here is learn, he taught like in School, subject, object, etc... The Pastor will tell U to seek out the word 4 yourself, dont beleive him! The strongs is just a tool to aid the Bible Student in understanding the WORD more clearly. Most folks out in the World dont even know the Heb. is the old testament language, the new is Greek, or U dont have to study it anymore it's past, Bla Bla! This is just all hog wash! if U dont know 1st hand why not try it in person, many do from all over the World. It's much different than any Church I have ever been to, and they dont pass a plate. I have found that the Pastor is very knowledgeable of Bible, History, many things! The true Word is what brings people in I beleive. Pastor Murray is a Veteran. and guess what human like all of us, and he loves the Lord, so by judgeing him and not even to have visited the Church, how can U? Oh, and Eve was the 1st to sin in the Garden not Adam, but HE followed/ I would like to say God 4 give all who have never given the Chapel a chance, and I have learned from a wise one, on Oprah, "We do what we know how to do till we LEARN whats right". Pastor is correct, we love him/ and come visit us/