there great boards they have good pop and flip not the best rotation though i had one for about a year but as i said its a good board lasted me about a year it doesnt chip easy unless it has lots of pressure cracks wiche it will start gettin in 3-4 maybe 5 months depends if ur a hard skater i recomend it if you can skate a farly heavy board i give it 4 out of 5 stars