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DeVry University

reviewed by BoBSmith29

Phone: (630) 574-1957 Fax: (630) 574-1973 E-mail: malexander@keller.edu http://www.online.devry.edu

BoBSmith29
02/22/2009

DeVry University 5

As a former employee and student at DeVry University, these reviews both annoy me and misrepresent certain aspects of higher ed in general. So often, these reviews are so obviously posted by unhappy students who do not take charge of their own damn education. As an employee at DeVry, yes, there are frequently situations that would cause me to be embarrassed by the school. But more often than not, I hear stories of students that failed to do any research on a very expensive decision. How do students not actually ever LOOK at the program requirements and the number of classes required to graduate??? It isn't like DeVry withholds the information. It is available both online and in printed course catalogs that are given to anyone who requests one. Reviews here always comment about how they thought they were graduating and then DeVry told them they needed one more class. I just dont get this. If you take control of your own damn education, how did you not realize yourself what you had taken and what was left???? Thats your own fault.

To those people who complain on the cost, or they feel they weren't told, the tuition is available online at the main website, and also you sign forms with the total cost of the program. Are you not reading forms put before you to sign? Are you that stupid??? From what I have seen, yes, most people are that stupid, so you can only blame yourself later. If you can't afford the cost, luckily there are always community colleges out there to accommodate you.

To the person that claims he paid $10k for a single math course, most likely he had to take the three developmental math courses prior to this which would raise the costs. Again, it isn't DeVry's fault you are stupid and can't pass a basic Math skills test designed by the College Board (think ACT group). It isn't the University's fault your public education system failed in properly teaching you math.

Yes, financial aid at DeVry is a complete joke. I admit that. It's a nightmare. So see, I agree on some valid points.

To the student's complaining on course instruction, consider this. When I went to the Ohio State University, one of the most reputable schools in the country, I had horrible experiences as well. I once had a Stats course with about 350 people in it. My professors name was literally "X" and he spoke very poor English (he was chinese). We couldn't ask questions in lecture, but were asked to save for the next day's "lab" class. Here, we had snotty and angry graduate student TA's who were more busy trying to prove themselves than instruct or guide. Another teacher at OSU kicked me out of a class because I was 15 mins late from trying to traverse the 1.5 miles between my classes in the 20 mins allotted. At DeVry, most of my classes were about 15 students and teachers knew my name. My tecahers would frequently stay hours after class to help tutor and help struggling students, as well as giving out their cell-phone numbers for people who had questions. So, umm, yea. I was a little more impressed with DeVry here.

So, through all this, my biggest comment to people out there is this: Take charge of your own damn education, regardless of where you go. DeVry admits it is not the best choice for everyone. Yes, it is expensive. Yes, you frequently do have to take online classes. Yes, privately, most employees will tell you the the financial aid department isn't the greatest. But regardless of where you go, do your homework to find where is best for you. If you don't have a wide-open schedule and time to go to a traditional school, DeVry may work. If you don't want to go to a community college and sit next to the lowest elements of society, DeVry may work. If you are an older person returning to finish a degree and don't like how traditional schools have very little options for you, DeVry may work, (or hell, if you don't care about cost, instruction, and all group work classes, go to U of Phoenix!).

As a former academic advisor at DeVry, I sat with students all day long to help guide them through their programs. Kids today expected to be given everything on a plate, so I am not surprised at these reviews. Kids would fail classes because they didn't attend, or didnt do any homework. Then yes, you will fail. Try quitting World of Warcraft for a week, leave your mom's basement, and go to a damn library! Every time I sat with a student, I would take them through their program status both online, which they had access to, and I would also give them a different format which listed what they had left to take as well as a suggested order of classes. Yet no matter how much i did, people never kept the forms, looked online, and constantly would come to me every term because we weren't telling them what they had left! Fail. On you.

Overall people, believe me or not, school is hard anywhere and it doesn't always go back on the school because you can't succeed in higher education.

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sandyruotolo commented 284 days ago.
As a current student at Devry, I am appaled at your response. While I can understand your frustation, I cannot condone anyone calling another student stupid. You raise some valid points about the grades students receive, and yes, it is on them to do the homework, ask for guidance, or tutoring etc. What I can't understand is your unprofessional choice of words. Did Devry fire you? Because if you are an example of the graduates that are the business world's future managers, I shudder thinking of the hapless business world that employed you. Do you treate your co-workers the same way? My thing is I get the grade I put the energy into. If I do notihing I expect a zero grade. Don't complete assignments or hand them in shame on me. If you are an example of a graduate of Devry, perhaps I should try Drexel. I think they have a much better reputation for prducing outstanding business managers.

BoBSmith29 commented 283 days ago.
No, you are completely missing the point of what I had said, and no, I wasn't fired. I took the experience and degree I earned to take a vertical move within the education industry. I am not calling my former students and classmates 'stupid'. I am calling people that can do nothing better for themselves than post endlessly on the failings of others when they take no responsibility for their own actions or lack of actions 'stupid'. I was often amazed at the exceedingly intelligent people both in my classes and instructing my classes. I had some students who i advised who were just a joy to watch grow through their educational careers, people who might have lacked polish and shine grow into intelligent people who were so worthy of the degrees and careers they achieved at the end. But I became so annoyed with the lackwits and lazy underachievers who had a bad experience and then end up spending their time posting misleading info on sites like this. Stupid? Yes. Showing my lack of business acumen and leadership ability? I think not.

10101336 commented 279 days ago.
"If you don't want to go to a community college and sit next to the lowest elements of society, DeVry may work."

Im sorry, but you're really putting devry on a pedestal here. I know plenty of hard working, intelligent people at community colleges, and I wish I went to one instead of devry! If I was smart, I would have too! Devry came to my school and offered me a promise of making a lot of money in a few years, so I bit. If I had done my research, I would have found out I could have gotten the same, if not better education for a lot cheaper!

My first semester transferring from devry, I took an electronics class. The professor said he was teaching here (a state school), and also the same exact class at a community college, for a lot cheaper. We even took the same exact tests, and the community college students got a better overall grade! I was amazed. I think that people who go to community colleges, and make it past the first semester, are there because they did their research, and realized they could do most of the work for dirt cheap, then transfer and graduate at a big name school.

And devry isnt the only school that offers small classes, my biggest class size is maybe 30 people. The professor has no problems seeing any student after class, or if he has a class directly after, during office hours. And they all know me by name.

jcmann012 commented 265 days ago.
I have worked at Tulsa Community College for 10 years in the IT field and have also earned an associates degree here at this institution. Many of the students are also going to local universities and trying to save on costs by taking what classes they can here. I resent many of the condescending remarks that BoBSmith29 made and like others who commented about his
beligerant remarks, such as:

"If you don't want to go to a community college and sit next to the lowest elements of society, DeVry may work." and

"Are you that stupid??? From what I have seen, yes, most people are that stupid, so you can only blame yourself later. If you can't afford the cost, luckily there are always community colleges out there to accommodate you. "

and so on and so forth.

I don't know who hired you, but you sure as hell would not stay long
at TCC, just for your condescending and angry attitude towards students, who in your opinion, don't measure up. I have taken many classes here at this Community College and have sat next to some very well educated middle class people who were not what you consider the "lowest elements of society." To say something this like this just displays how ignorant you
really are about Community Colleges.

Yes, there are students out there that lack good judgement and need to get on top of their game and if they want to succeed in life, they will eventually figure this out. It is our job to help them, not talk down to them.

You should not go around calling people stupid and using other foul language
to express yourself in all your puffed up pride. This is how the lowest elements of society talk to others, so why are you, an educated person, speaking this way about others? No, I think your the one missing the point here!




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