i always thought of the mossberg shotgus to be entry level guns and for people who dont want to spend money on a quality gun although many people like them i favor the remington 870 20ga. because of fast pumping relieable and durable gun rather than the mosseberg which i found to have a really sticky pump and felt very lose. I use a browning citori o/u on everything thats not grouse or turkeys. my thoughts are if you want a good gun that will last you a long time spend an extra 150 dollars and by a 870 or the more expencive wingmaster.