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13 die in dual shootings at Fort Hood, Texas 11/05

reviewed by edt4

13 (12 soldiers, 1 civilian) people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting rampage on the Fort Hood Army base in Texas. The alleged gunman, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a U.S. Army psychiatrist, was finally shot and seriously injured by civilian police officers.

edt4
11/07/2009

13 die in dual shootings at Fort Hood, Texas 11/05 3

Sad to say, these type of stories have become so numbingly ubiquitous in recent years...disturbed loser goes on a rampage with a gun, killing others and then themselves...that they tend to pass through your awareness without making a lasting impression, other than the thought that modern life becomes more de-personalized and more horrific (in general) as the years pass by. The incidents all seem to blend together; the names of the guilty parties become difficult to recall (I suspect that if Richard Speck and Charles Whitman went on their mass-murder sprees now, they and their crimes would pretty much be forgotten in a month by most people). For instance, can anyone recall, off the top of their heads, the name of the Asian kid responsible for that massacre in Virginia a year or so ago? I can't. Or the pederast in Great Britain some years ago who killed all those schoolchildren (I think his name might have been Hamilton, but I could be wrong). Or the stock-broker (or insurance salesman) in Atlanta.

What's different about this case, of course, is that the perpetrator is still alive, and that he is, as someone noted in one of these reviews, what bigots would refer to as a "raghead". Puts me in mind of an incident I witnessed at a nearby soup shop yesterday at lunch, which I had with a friend of mine and his 5-year old son. A woman at the next table, a middle-aged blonde, was talking loudly to her friend...as well as everyone else in the room, who couldn't help but overhear her. She had been somewhere public earlier in the morning...a post office, I think, but I could be wrong about that...and had started commenting loudly on how this crime clearly demonstrated that all "sand niggers" needed to be kept out of the country. Those already here needed to be unceremoniously thrown out, the quicker the better. At the time, she was confronted by another woman, and it escalted into a near-physical confrontation.

The leathery blonde, wearing a NOBAMA HEALTH CARE button, then started in on how everyone in the restaurant knew it was a free country, she could say whatever in hell she wanted, and everyone needed to start writing to their Congressmen, their Senators, etc. It was the "progressives" she said in a withering tone, making imaginary marks around the word with her fingers, that were responsible for how far down this country had come in recent years. But there was hope. If only we'd write to our Senators, Congressmen, etc., we'd all be ok. And got the "sand niggers" out of the country, of course.
(In deference to my friend's 5-year old son, I didn't tell the woman to get the fuck out of the restaurant and let me eat my meager meal in peace-- I later accused my friend, a former neo-con now calling himself "an old-fashioned conservative", with setting the whole spectacle up for my benefit. He just laughed.")

The point? In my cynicism, I think all the furor has less to do with the fact that innocent people were brutally, senselessly slaughtered...yet again...than it does with the fact that the sick scumbag who did it was named "Hasan."

I'm not suggesting that the fact of his origins might not have had a place in the development of his delusional system of belief. But nobody blamed all Jewish people because of Berkowitz, or all blond all-American looking guys because of Whitman, or all black Jamaicans because of Colin Ferguson, or all WASP stock-brokers (or insurance salesmen) because of that guy in Atlanta (Barton: his name comes to me now), or all maladjusted high school kids because of those 2 at Columbine....etc., etc.,...

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irishgit commented 20 days ago.
Apparently you were dining in the presence of blue47 dressed in drag.

edt4 commented 20 days ago.
Surprisingly (maybe not so surprisingly), sadly, people like this don't seem to be a rarity. Would that they were...

irishgit commented 20 days ago.
Indeed. But if life has taught me anything, it's that God must love ignorant fuckheads, because He made so many of them.

edt4 commented 20 days ago.
Too true.

DoorGunner commented 11 days ago.
You may not like the way she said it, but I agree with what she said. Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a religion based on warfare, which is how it has advanced every inch of the way. There is no need to have Muslims in this country, for who can cull the "peaceful" ones from the normally militant ones?

DoorGunner commented 11 days ago.
So using the term "raghead" makes one a bigot. I guess US soldiers at Pelelieu were bigots for using the term "Jap" and "slope." And those in Europe for calling Germans "Krauts." Political correctness has made pussies out of us all.

edt4 commented 11 days ago.
Yeah, it makes one a bigot. I heard the term "Raghead" being used by bigots long before 9/11, by the way. I hold no brief for religious or cultural fanaticism of any kind, but I recognize that there are countless numbers of peaceful, civilized Muslims in this country, just as there are countless numbers of peaceful, civilized Protestants, Catholics and Jews (and atheists, etc.). As far as "political correctness" making us a nation of pussies, I'm more concerned in determining what has made us a nation of dumb, compliant, conformist sheep.

FranksWildYears commented 11 days ago.
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So by DoorGunner's arguement, after Columbine and any other school shootings there is no need to have teenagers in this country, for who can cull the "peaceful" ones from the normally violent ones?

DoorGunner commented 10 days ago.
I'm sure edt4 would have no problem calling white southerners rednecks. It all depends on what group you're trying to protect from having their feelings hurt. Or it depends on how holy you wish others to perceive you. Does a black guy calling a white guy "honkey" categorize him as a bigot? I would say no. You are very superficial indeed if you think name-calling makes somebody a bigot. By the same token, I guess PC jargon-slinging makes one a saint. Not everyone can be as pure and holy as you, edt4, so cut the sinners some slack, All-Knowing One.

edt4 commented 10 days ago.
Your sarcasm aside, I think you misread me. I've never claimed to be without bigotry. In some of my exchanges here in the past, I've cast aspersions against Southerners, and apologized for it. Initially, I resorted to it for comic effect, but it was insulting not only to the people for whom the insult was intended, but for others perfectly innocent, decent people. I'm as susceptible to the same bullshit as anyone else is, being as I'm a fallible human being, just like you and all other "sinners". You can read into my personality whatever you want, but the "All Knowing One" crack is just plain silly. But I'll stand by what I said...if you call someone a "rag head" or a "Sand nigger" or a "greaseball" or whatever, you're a bigot. I would have more respect for someone (not that they care about my respect one way or the other) if they stopped all the "political correctness" whiny bullshit and just came out and said, "Yeah, I'm a bigot. I don't like this group, and I'm not comfortable with the other group, and that's just the way that I am."

DoorGunner commented 10 days ago.
I like your response.

edt4 commented 10 days ago.
I aim to please.

irishgit commented 10 days ago.
One of my closest friends is Ismaili, and very evidently brown, and very proud of his culture and religion. He once made the following comment to me: "I despise political correctness, because it allows bigots to hide behind weasel words. Frankly, if someone is ignorant, or a bigot, or a racist, I'd rather they came at me head on."

DoorGunner commented 10 days ago.
That's weird. I mean the proud part. I can't imagine ever even thinking that I'm proud to be a Christian. The two don't go together. It's almost like saying I'm proud of God. I'm proud of the Redeemer for his work at Calvary. What balderdash! I wouldn't even say I'm proud of my culture. I'm grateful I was born into it, but sad to see what's becoming of it. But proud of it? It has too many faults for that. It seems that people of color are always proud of whatever they were born into, whatever they were given through no effort of their own. The idea of being "proud" about something other than a member of your family doesn't sit well with me. I guess I view pride as something tied to accomplishment. I was probably born in the wrong century.

irishgit commented 10 days ago.
That may be so, but I hear a lot of Christians, including many on here, talk about how proud they are to be Christians, and I hear a lot of folks talk about taking pride in their English, Irish, German, Italian, French, Norwegian, etc., etc., heritage. It don't think its unique to people of color. I don't disagree with your comment about taking pride in accomplishments being more important.

I also think its important to note that taking pride in ones religion or culture does not necessarily mean shoving it in other's faces, or even talking about it much. In my friend's case, it seldom comes up, and in my experience is never initiated by him. If asked, he'll explain, and the pride is evident in the tone of his voice.

fitman commented 10 days ago.
My culture - such as it is - is both inherited and invented by myself. As with all cultures, it's worthy of respect only because the other ones are no better.

In my opinion, the only two cultures I'm aware of that are worthy of almost absolute respect are the anarcho/syndicalist culture of Catalonia and the libertarian culture of the Hopi and even those are not perfect.

Muslim culture has produced much to be proud of over the centuries, but it's fundamentaly flawed because it has no provision for forgiveness (and therefore should appeal to many conservative Christians of the "off with their heads" persuasion).

While I don't join with those who wish to persecute "ragheads", I'm not so naive that I'm unaware of the threat to freedom posed by any authoritarian, sexist religion.

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/arab05.html#arab03 0b5

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