What a ridiculous prediction!

In Utah, sure.  But can't we all agree that it's way to early for predictions like this?  Although Bristol Palin's forced marriage will certainly be over or unhappy by 2012.

I don't know where these conservative commentators are coming from--"guarantee"?! Their assumption seems to be that President Obama will do so much "damage" that the Democrats will be discredited. Even if the impossible happens and he is an even greater wrecking ball than Bush, how is that a guarantee of anything? After Bush had four years to all but ruin the country (two wars that weren't either thought or fought through, only to get us started), I thought his defeat was assured. Shows you how far such "guarantees" go.

John McCain and Joe the Plumber were seen today, sitting on a park bench, eating tuna sandwiches and discsussing this very matter. Later on, Joe the Plumber called a press conference where he threw his hat in the ring for Obama in 2012...

There is no guarantee at all that the Republicans will take back control in 2012. I won't be surprised at all if Obama is elected to a second term. I think the country would have to really continue going down the shitter for so many to lose faith in him. I'm also not optimistic about the GOP's chances because I don't see a good candidate on the horizon. Sarah Palin doesn't have what it takes to be President in four years, and there was no other young Republican who rose to prominence during this election cycle like Obama did during 2004. The Republicans need a fresh candidate, and I don't know where that person will come from.

I'm not smart enough to make that kind of prediction and I honestly don't think anyone is. Obama was just elected peresident for Gods Sake. Let's give him a chance to fail or succeed on his own merit. The job is tough enough.

The only guarantee I know of is we're all gonna die.  "Obama is gonna vote the liberal line" is right behind it, but I know that in the long run, we're all dead.

Far too early to make that assumption, unless one is indulging in GOP wishful thinking. Few incumbent presidents are defeated for re-election. Granted, three of the times its happened have been in the last 30 years, but that doesn't make it the norm. 

That being said, it is likely that after the initial honeymoon period, there will be electoral decay of the Democratic strength.  This may be evident in the 2010 cycle and again in 2012.   How much decay, and whether the decay reaches the presidential campaign, remains to be seen.

Huh? Its a bit early to call that. People need to cut down on the Kool Aid.

Sure bets almost never are. Besides, does it really matter which group of monkeys controls what?

Again, way too early too tell. As I see it, the Republican Party will be going into exile for the next 2 years at least. You've got to look at positives: for one, this gives the party the chance to reinvigorate its leadership and its political ideas. It is a time to retool and find new voices.

The first order of business for them should be to establish who the leaders of the party should be going forward. As I see it there are four factions in the party vying for control: the Populist, evangelical wing of the party led by Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin, the Establishment, economic conservative wing of the party led by Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush, the Conservative wing lead by young, emerging leaders like Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, and finally there is the National Security wing of the party which are largely dominated by the Neo-Conservatives. Condoleeza Rice might fit into this mold.

I believe that a major wildcard for the GOP nomination in 2012 is CENTCOM commander General David Petraus. It is assumed that he will remain in active duty for at least a year, and we really don't know if he's a Republican or not, but he might make a natural leader for the party who can be acceptable to all wings of the party and can appeal to moderates much like Colin Powell does or how Dwight Eisenhower did. I don't believe that any of the names I mentioned above are strong enough to carry the party 4 years from now. The Republicans need to find someone who will expand the base; Petraus might be the pick they need. It's just a question of getting him to run.

I fearfully believe that Obama will do enough damage to help the GOP cause in 2010 and 2012. In this case however, I don't know taht I buy the "it took four years of Carter to get eight years of Reagan" argument. If you are Republican, conservative, or both, is there another Reagan out there? If so, will he get the support of the GOP machinery?

We'll have to wait and see. I I don't like Obama's agenda and I think we have four hard years ahead. Those who don't remember Jimmy Carter or look at that administration with a revisionist historians twist will get a dose of reality. All he has to do now is prove me wrong and I can't help but keep the old fashioned notion that I want him to do just that. Even if I didn't vote for him it doesn't change the fact that he will be my President and if he doesn't do well we all don't do well.