Murder. Period. If the man has no say while his child is in the womb then men should have the right to not have anything to do with a child that THEY don't want that the woman wants. Women cannot self impregnate.

It's wrong, it's murder and should never be allowed.

We send the best young men and women of a generation into battle to die protecting the status quo as determined by their elders. We have state sanctioned termination of the lives of those whose behaviour we have deemed unacceptable. We make choices about the allocation of life sustaining resources, medication and healthcare, emergency relief from natural disasters, food and foreign aid. We write living wills specifying when we want people to refrain from providing life saving medical attention. By ‘we’ I don’t mean America, or the West, or Christians, or the good guys, I mean humanity. There are also millions who are killed by their fellow man or their own hand in ways that are not legally sanctioned, murder, suicide, criminal negligence, drunk driving. The unborn are by a long shot not only the examples of society’s lack of regard for the sanctity of life.

Abortion has been legalized in our Country not by the law makers but by a tyrannical Supreme Court decree. The people, when given the opportunity, have overwhelmingly voted against abortion. That is why the sinister elements of society will do whatever it takes not to include the issue in the voting ballots to prevent the people of the Unites States to express their will and opinion. The complacency and cooperation of the law makers is deceptive and a poor representation of the will of the American People. Update: I guess we will now have to be careful when using the word "abomination". It may soon become a "politically incorrect" term and even perceived as hate speech, you know, abomination - obama-nation

I THINK ABORTION IS WRONG! LIKE IF U DNT WANT A BABY THEN DONT OPEN UR LEGS! ITZ NOT THE BABYZ FALT U GOT PREGNET AND FOR THOSES WHO SAY THE WOMEN SHOLD CHOOSE WELL THEY DID CHOOSE ON HAVING UN PROTECTERD SEX! AND WEATHER U WANT TO FACE THE FACTZ OR NOT IT IS A LIFE! THATS LIKE SAYIN ITS OK TO KILL SOME ONE.

Statistics show there are fewer abortions when Democrats rule than when Republicans  have near absolute power.

Could this be because there are fewer unwanted pregnancies when government takes a more rational approach to sex education and birth control?

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abortion is evil. Women say, "my body my choice". it's your choice to kill another person? How about we make abortion illegal and the cunt can decide whether she wants to be a whore or not!!!

Abortion is a major issue. The biggest problem these days is that so many people who oppose abortion are starting to think that their cause is hopeless, and that it legalized abortion is here to stay. If too many people have that attitude, then that will become reality. But I think that there is still hope to save innocent lives. If you oppose abortion, you have to vote that way, because  otherwise politicians will stop worrying about the issue, and nothing will ever happen. Overturning Roe vs. Wade is becoming increasingly difficult, but I believe that it is still possible.

It's really a bigger issue on message boards and places like RIA than it is a political issue. That's not to say it hasn't been used as a political tool by some. I don't think it will ever be a legitimate issue until someone on the Supreme Court openly states they would overturn Roe vs. Wade, then there will be fireworks. In the unlikely event Roe is overturned the propaganda will flow like water in a mountain stream, and the fact that abortion will return to being a state issue decided on by the people will throw a small twist on debates. Until then, as an issue it's mostly just used for sound bites and hyperbole.

On a personal note: I don't understand how anyone can justify abortion as a choice. Everyone who comes here started out the same way in the womb. It's makes me cringe to think some say what is growing in the womb is just something that should be dismissed and wiped out because it is inconvenient, like it's an old tree stump in the yard. I think abortion should be a legal option in the cases of rape, incest, and for health reasons, but when it comes to choice the woman makes her choice when she chooses to have sex.  

How do you rate the decision to have an abortion on a facebook Likert scale?

This is an issue of morality more than legality. While I hold the view that life is sacred and should not be lightly set aside, I also recognize it is not my place to decide this for another person, or judge their decision. It is something best decided between the woman, her doctor, and God (should He be a factor for that person), and the consequences of the decision are the woman's responsibility to bear. It is a decision that I feel should not be made spur of the moment or without thought. As such, I feel it is not the state's place to say who can or cannot have an abortion, but I do feel it is the state's responsibility to provide for the high quality of care afforded by every other branch of medicine, so that if a woman chooses to have an abortion, they do not do so at risk of life or limb like back in the bad old days of back-alley operations. Proper informed consent on the part of the doctor is also important (meaning an impartial dissemination of the facts).

My body. My choice. Plain and simple. Define human life. Simply breathing, and having a beating heart is NOT LIFE! Life is memories, knowing what love is, having thoughts and actually FEELING! Do you remember anything from in the womb? I barley remember things from elementary school. Fanatical Christians need to realize that their religion doesnt reign over all people. If I'm muslim, should I make all women in america wear those head thingers? If I worship satan, should I have a nationally televised goat sacrafice? So if i'm Christian, should I make all of america suffer because my god tells me that abortion is wrong? NO! People who don't agree with you aren't morally wrong. They were raised differently than you....and as christians you're supposed to accept people and practice forgiveness. Oh wait. That page of your bible must have been ripped out. Does anyone remember what was happening before abortion was legal? Thats right. They were doing it in the street with a bent up hanger. Meaning, not only does the unborn fetus die, but many times the mother dies too, not only from blood loss, but from bacterial infections, and many other complications from BAD abortions. Oh wait. Should mothers throw themselves down the stairs to have miscarraiges instead of going to a clinic? All you people say 'who gives the mothers life more value over the babies life?' Well. My response to that is...who gives the babies life more value over the mothers life? An unborn baby has no experiences that make "life" what it is. And for all you people who think that planned parenthood is murder....you are freaking crazy. Condoms would be murder. Birth Control Pills are murder. Oral sex is murder. Anal sex is murder. Having a period is murder. HELL! MASTURBATING IS MURDER!....tell me you havent masturbated and i'll seriously slap you. Ridiculous.

Very important.  Hope to see Roe v. Wade overturned one day.  In my opinion you can't have morals and be for killing an unborn HUMAN BEING, simply because it is unwanted.  In cases of rape, incest, or the mother's health, I'd understand, but those should be the only exeptions.

UPDATED: I can not believe that Animal Rights on this weblist is rated as a higher importance than the rights of an unborn human being. Now don't get me wrong, I love animals but the life of children should be more important. Concerning the issue of rape and abortion: "Studies conducted by Planned Parenthood's Guttmacher Institute
indicate that two consenting and fertile adults have only a 3 percent chance of
pregnancy from an act of intercourse. They also indicate there are factors
involved in a rape which further reduce these chances for rape victims. The
Guttmacher Institute says 14,000 abortions per year are due to rape or incest,
which amounts to just over 1 percent of all abortions. Other studies show that
pregnancies due to rape are much rarer than is generally thought, perhaps as
few as one in a thousand cases. Furthermore, since conception doesn't occur
immediately after intercourse, pregnancy can be prevented in the great majority
of rape cases by medical treatment that removes the semen before an ovum can be
fertilized. So where does the misconception come from that many pregnancies are due to
rape? Fearful young women will sometimes attribute their pregnancies to rape,
since doing so gains sympathy and avoids condemnation. The young woman called
"Roe" in the famous Roe v. Wade case who elicited sympathy in
the court and media because she claimed to be a rape victim years later
admitted she had lied and had not been raped at all. Pro-choice advocates often divert attention from the vast majority of abortions by focusing on rape because of its inherent (and well-deserved) sympathy factor. Their frequent references to rape during discussions of the abortion issue leaves the false impression that pregnancy due to rape is common. The intent is to get people to structure laws in light of rare cases rather than common ones." ORIGINAL MESSAGE: Yes, women should have rights, but so should babies. Who gives one's life more value over another? With the exception of rape and incest, I believe women have the right to not get pregnant, if they choose to get pregnant or fail to protect themselves, what gives them the right to kill an infant? 

Abortion is still a very important topic for many people. Today many people argue that human life in the form of an ovum and spermatozoon becomes a human person at the time of conception, while others believe that life becomes a human person only after the actual conception. This issue is often raised by the students of medical schools, members of feminist movements, priests, etc. Personally I don’t really care who is right or wrong. I think every woman should have a chance to decide for herself when she wants to have a baby.

This nation is becoming more worldy everday, it is quite sick.  I believe abortion needs to be stopped and needs to be stopped now.  People, many liberals, complain how people are destroying the environment and how killing murderers is wrong. What the crap, you people want stop and innocent human life from happening, but you know lets save the convicts.  5 star, very important.

What is wrong with our country? We pride ourselves on being the most technologically advanced and morally clear part of the world. We support war if it helps people and then we fall down and support this travesty. Yeah and i know what you will say, you will say something on the lines of: “if you don't support it than don't do it” which is great logic for victim less crimes such as drug use and eating a ninety pound steak but with this issue, there is a victim you morons.

The whole “my body my choice” stuff is junk. Here is why: if you think that killing a human because of your control of your own body is okay then is it okay to drive fast without your hand on the steering wheel, it it your body and your choice, not the choice of the countless victims. Another thing is this, don't bring up the stupid claim that it is between a woman and God. Here is why:God does not care, he/she/it created the perfect world where he/she/it controlled things and guess what happened, it broke down because of an apple. After that God decided not to control the lives of everyone.

I despise this country because of stuff like this. Here we are inventing medicines, tools, life-loving philosophies and yet we fall back to the Godless dark ages or roman times with this sad and evil act of inhumanity. If i picked up a gun and started shooting people in order to take over land i would be in the same mindset as those that scream for keeping this legal.

Why do we need this? We have saran wrap for crying out loud and we still support this barbarianism. This is important: think for a minute you baby killers; how hard would it be to find a solution that makes everyone happy like a good form of birth control (don't bring up that whole “it will lead to promiscuity”stuff because christens would rather have condoms than abortion). We have the tech and, thanks to morons supporting government funding of this crap, we also have money allocated that is serving a terrible purpose, so what the heck is the holdup? Maybe money: who makes money from this evil deed? Who else than planned parenthood, the propaganda network for high school and college girls that don't know how close they themselves came to a dishonorable demise in the name of twisted pseudo-freedom. That company or whatever it is makes money from the government because they have no customers that can't afford their services (good deal for them, kind of like what it would be like if you gave rednecks money to go to Cosco; Cosco would love it and fund the politicians that give the money) then they fund the candidates and propaganda that keeps this legal.

Look at it this way: if it is legal you anger 50% of the people +- 3%. whereas if it is illegal you still have around 50% +- 3% of the people that are unhappy about the fact that it is illegal but they are nowhere near as angry as the people that are against it when it is legal!

Lastly think about this: it is not about freedom. Most of the supporters are socialists (erroneously called liberals) and trust me they only support positive liberty, which is the liberty that takes away power over ones life. Hopefully i made many of you hate me.

If you don't want one, then don't get one.

Okay, abortion is just plain wrong!

Our daily 911. All murderers will answer to God.

Abortion should never be entered into lightly. That said, it is a highly personal choice and legislation surrounding the issue must continue to be worded carefully.

The idea of abortion as birth control turns my stomach and hurts my heart to think about. Still, I understand the complexity of the issue and the fact that no woman walks away from one unscathed physically or psychically.

This is particularly true in the case of medically indicated terminations in which loved and wanted children are found through ultrasound or other testing to be severely ill. Even with the best of intentions it is a Faustian bargain. An attempt to end the suffering of a beloved child by killing a portion of ones own soul.

For this reason, it is my hope that this remains a private matter for the woman and her partner. It would be terrible to add a court battle to the already heartwrenching circumstances of some women faced with abortion.

If you do not believe in God and creation then go ahead and check no that this review was not helpful to you because there is no point in you reading any further.
I have heard many say that God is going to judge America because of abortion and perhaps he will do so. I think that we miss something, however, when we say something like this and that is that abortion has its own judgement built into it. First, children are a blessing and God meant for them to be a blessing. In Genesis, for example, to be blessed meant to have children and to be cursed meant to be barren. There is something about having children that makes us complete as humans. My wife was barren and could not have children and wanted one so badly and was told by doctors that she could not have a child, but we prayed and God answered and she go pregnant and at 40 she had my son Joshua. She was incomplete without him. She had to be a mother. When a woman chooses to abort her baby she chooses to kill God's blessing for her and why? Because it might be hard, she might have to struggle to get by? Who said things were suppose to be easy? It is a struggle to be empty inside and incomplete because you have aborted your blessing too.
Second, in order to justify abortion we have do dehumanize the baby and lable the baby a fetus. Isn't that how it always works? We dehumanized African Americans and called them the "n" word and claimed that they had no souls so that white slave owners could sleep at night, because the help was not fully human anyway. Hitler dehumanized the Jews with his propaganda machine and so that many in Germany thought nothing about killing them, because they were only Jews. We have to dehumanize babies in order to feel that it is okay to kill them. What we do not realize is that when we dehumanize others and rob them of their humanity, we ourselves are robbed of our own humanity. Will God judge America? He already has done so and it was not through 9-11-01, but through the very rights that we have claimed for ourselves.

Chalky Studebaker (awesome Doug name), the government isn't telling the woman what to do with her body. The government doesn't tell her to sleep around or have unprotected sex. The woman makes that choice, she doesn't have to be in the situation where abortion is an option. However, abortion IS murder. When the basic body shape and brain forms, how can you say that it is anything less than human? Rape issues I reluctantly understand. Nonetheless, frogger is right. Outlawing abortion wouldn't stop it and more dangerous procedures would come about. I know this will raise a few eyebrows, but seeing as we can't stop all abortions, if a woman can't go through with natural birth and adoption and wants to kill her own child at a physical risk to herself, let her do it. Nothing we can do about it. At least a law forbidding abortion would discourage a whole hell of a lot of other people.

Yes the never ending, waste of my tax dollar, crap issue. I understand both sides of the argument. If you can't decide withing the first trimester that you need an abortion, you are a moron. By all means ban late term abortion. I don't care if you like it or not Late term abortions is murder. I think adoption would be more appropriate. I hate this issue! bulldikes and feminist nazis the only rats keeping this issue afloat. don't like my comment go to hell.

This is another vital issue----South Dakota and Mississippi and the extreme right think that by overturning Roe Vs. Wade, women will simply stop getting abortions? Talk about idealism.......the wire hangers will come back. And South Dakota not allowing abortions in cases of rape or incest, to "send a message" to Washington regarding Roe Vs. Wade, is dark ages mentality. What if the daughter of a prominent South Dakota politician got raped at age 14 and was withchild?

Regardless of one's opinion (I happen to be pro-choice), the US Government has no right to tell a woman what she can do with her body.

This is a personal matter something that shouldn't be judged by others. I always find it odd that those against abortion have no further interest in the child once its born. That's when it needs all the help it can get.

Absolutely wrong in all but one, maybe two cases. When rape occurs, I believe it to be ok. But really other than that, its the womans choice to have sex. Like i've heard so many times- "you can choose your actions, but not your consequences."

Shouldn't even be a political issue.

Life DOES start with the embryo! I know this, because I sure do remember being a fetus. When I was a fetus, I would always get these insane migraines from bumping into the placenta, and they would leave my poor fetal head throbbing for hours after. Normally, rubbing my temple would reduce the pain of the headache, but unfortunately my fetal arms were just too damn short. Man, I hated being a fetus.

This issue is best left to the individual to decide. I'm sick and tired of religion being used as a deciding factor. What ever happen to seperation between church and state? If you are a god fearing individual, follow your religous convictions and don't have the abortion. However, don't force your convictions down someone else's throat. That person may not even believe in god. The outcome is between god and the person that aborted; not you. If you are going to use the murder excuse, let's face it. Murder is murder--be it abortion or killing women/children in Iraq. Let's just cut the bulls--t!

the taking of any human life is murder. maybe if you're not ready for the possibility of having children, you should simply refrain from having sex. i know...it's a crazy idea, but it's moral. tornado: you've submitted 10 ratings and three of them are about abortion. perhaps it is you who needs to "get a life" and worry about something else.

If a sexy woman wants to have an abortion, than a sexy woman is who i want to have an abortion cause it's there choice and that's that. Now, get a life everybody because there's to many babies in the world and the population is too high as it is. Stop with this emotional trash that the baby might grow up to be something special. Who cares. Wiseguy, how so? ahaha abortions are here to stay whether you like them or not.

I find that I believe in a woman's right to choose. And the real issue here is that when a woman finds she is pregnant "unexpectedly", will she choose to do what is right? Now morality enters the picture. Should a woman have the right to kill her unborn baby? Morality would say we do not. God is the giver and taker of life. (The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away, blessed be the name of the Lord -Job 1:21). So for a woman to decide that she is the one who will end this life she knowingly helped to bring about, is the same as if she were playing God. Because we CAN do something does not mean that we OUGHT to do it. Ought is the realm of morality to which God is sovereign. God is the one who defines what is good and what is evil. Ultimately, how you view this issue has much to do with how you view God. Back to choice. A woman has many choices to make and all of them are moral ones. Will she have unprotected sex? We moderns have more safe birth control methods available than ever before, yet many choose not to utilize them. If she is not married then she must choose whether or not to have immoral sex. If you start by doing the wrong thing why should you expect that the consequences would be other than undesirable? Only one thing leads to an unwanted pregnancy and that is the point at which the woman must choose. We all know that 2 wrongs do not make a right. Sex leads to babies, while abstinence does not. Why doesn't anyone ever choose abstinence? Perhaps it has something to do with SIN. We do not want to do what is right therefore we can only choose to do wrong. Dr. Laura is apparently mistaken, we cannot DO right because we do not know what IS right. And so we choose to shed innocent blood because we do not like the consequences of our actions. Go figure. God is not mocked, we will reap the consequences for our actions. And THAT should be the basis for ANY choice we have to make. Do what you will and be prepared to pay for it!

Im pro death. Control the population you fornicating hillbillies! We have too many babies now adays...our schools are full and so are our jails! If we keep making children like rabbits eventually we will have to starting eating our young like australians!

I'm neutral. I'm agreeing that some women see it as a form of birth control (which it's not).These are the ones who make repeated visits to the clinic because they don't want to have a kid.If they don't want a kid,then why did they have unprotected smex? On the other hand,there are some that are truly not ready to be mothers (such as young women).They wouldn't be able to cope with all the stress of being a mother.And in some rare cases,an ultrasound (and another procedure that I can't remember the name of)could prove the possible existance of a life threatening problem (deformities,parasitic twins,conjoined twins,disabilities,etc.) for the fetus.Would you rather give birth to a child that might not live past its second birthday,or even past a month;or would you simply prevent the birth from ever happening,for the fetus's sake? And an additional thing. Something is not truly alive until it takes its first breath.Abortion is performed LONG before this ever occurs.And,because it is attached to the mother via the umbellicle cord,it is technically her property,and she has every right to choose to have an abortion if she so feels it's necessary (unless she's one of the ones that think it's a form of birth control). You people have no say in wether a woman should get an abortion or not.It's the choice of the expectant mother,and it's hers alone. (This is my opinion) kthxbi.

I personally don't believe in abortion. The reason people have abortions is because its an unwanted pregnancy. Well, if you don't want to get pregant, you shouldn't do the things that can make you pregnant. When you decide to have sex, you have the risk of getting pregnant, and i don't believe abortion is a right way to avoid the consequence it can bring. If you can't afford a child, at least put it up for adoption. Thats just me.

Mention the word 'abortion' to anyone on the street, and you'll quickly learn how important the issue is to Americans.

The way zealots have tried to sentimentalize other women's fertilized eggs often goes beyound the boundaries of logic. They demonize single young ladies who quickly and responsibly stop their unwanted pregancies by calling them baby murderers. Should we also demonize the wonderful gift of fertility clinics as being run by baby murderers as well? Unused microscopic zygotes are routinely discarded from fertility clinics all the time. Aren't these fertilized eggs the same as babies and children, by the same lines of illogic? Should the courts really start being unreasonable with fertility clinics and those in an initial stage of fertilized egg implantation? I happen to support fertility choice and most kinds of responsible reproductive choice. I shake my head at all the unreasonableness zealots and their dittoheads like to propagandize, as if everyone has to come to the exact same conclusions about reproductive control that they do.

i believe in abortion being legal during the first trimester. In the earliest stages of pregnancy i don't see the fetus as a helpless baby, whether you argue this point with religion or biology i will disagree because i dont let human interpretations of religion determine my beliefs and because i too have studied the sciences extensively enough to develop my own opinion on the matter. of course i believe that abortion should never be a means of birth control, but i think that argument is silly considering that its not a reality of the times, rarely will one come across a person that has had several abortions because if nothing else its a traumatizing experience for the woman. I would also agree that a woman SHOULD tell the father and discuss options, but at the end of the day it is not his decision to make, he is not the one that will be carrying the child around for nine months. UPDATE i think your point allknowningknowitall is what divides a lot of people. Yes i would have a problem with killing a baby right in front of me, but there is not a baby inside me during the early stages of pregnancy. Some people believe its a baby from conception i dont believe its a baby until it experiences significant development during the later parts of pregnancy. If you were to take out hte baby as you put it, i would not have a baby in front of me at all just a tiny undeveloped foreign fetus. I see your point, especially in cases where a woman has an abortion late in her pregnancy but thats not how i feel early in the pregnancy.

this is the part of the human race that disgusts me. Its sort of the issue 'Just because you can't see it doesn't mean its not there' If the baby was right in front of you, would you be able to draw the knife to its head just to save your body? To some people its like: all Im doing is getting an injection so I can get rid of that little tummy lump. No. Thats a human inside your stomach whether you like it or not. Also another common theory is: I'd rather kill it now or it'll feel the pain of being born in a family that doesn't want it. Thats not fair in a lot of ways, first of all, just because it is born into an unwanting family doesn't mean that the child will not find happiness in life, the best thing to do if you don't want the child is to put him or her up for adoption, because just because you don't want it, there could be someone out there who does.

People like me get criticized a lot for putting so much importance on one issue, but I challenge anyone look at this from a Christian perspective (or anyone who values human life in my opinion). To us it is unbearable to think about all of the lives that are ended each day because of abortion. Abortion, to us, has similar moral ramifications to the Holocaust, and nobody denies the atrocities committed there. Well, to me abortion is the most important political issue right now. If I was in charge, I would rather see us pull our military out of Afghanistan and Iraq, double the national debt, and let every gay couple in the country marry today than let people continue to murder their children.

Overall, it would be good and idealistic if the number of abortions could be reduced by people being responsible and taking proper precautions. We know that view has its limits because we are human, and there a lot of people who are operating purely off of their white matter. No one is really excited about getting an abortion. I'm generally pro-life and lean conservative, but it is always a personal choice. My wife and I found out we were going to have a child with 7 different complications, including Down's Syndrome and a malformed heart, and we decided to intervene. We feel we did the right thing because if the baby made it to term it would have seriously suffered. It was better for our child to be with God in Heaven. So-called evangelistic types and conservatives should take a good look in their own personal closet of sins and mistakes before they try to pass judgement on this issue. In my experience the people most tied into the church are the ones with the most sin to cleanse!

This should not be legal. I used to support it, until I discovered what actually happens on the operating table. The fetuses are either poisoned, burned, or literally ripped apart. How can you support that? I thought I was supporting women's rights, but no one's rights should allow that. Choose adoption, for christ sake. This does not need to be going on. If we can't ban abortion, we should at the very least find a more humane method.

I personally don't believe in abortion as a means of birth control. I do believe that it can and should be used only if the health of the mother is at stake, or in the case of a pregnancy resulting from rape. As it is, however, we have a thirty year old Supreme Court decision saying that the government cannot ban abortion as it violates privacy rights. That one's going to be pretty hard to get around. Not to contradict myself, however, after meeting some of the people I've met in my life, I would be in favor of retroactive abortion for certain individuals.

Abortion is of monumental importance because of how it symbolizes the decay of morals in our society. And you know what, it goes beyond morals. Anyone who knows anything about Biology understands that abortion is murder. After all, when a child is in the mother's womb, it already has its gender programmed and is growing. Why is it okay to save a baby whale but your violating a woman's right to choose if you try to save a child's right to life? So many people play the gender card with this issue, but forget that people like Susan B. Anthony and Norma McCorvey were/are against abortion! Look, if your pro-choice, PLEASE research abortion procedures and look at pictures that illustrate what choice does to a baby! Choose adoption, the caring option.

Abortion may seem to be easier than adopting, but it is very wrong. I think it should be banned.

Skiz UPDATE: There are those who believe that life begins (meaning the fetus becomes a person) at the instant of conception (which is supported by much theology), and his/her God-given (or constitutionally-given, for you atheists) rights begin at that very instant, also. Ending that life, would then (by extension) be correctly characterized as murder, wouldn't it? I respect, without being intellectually condescending, those who believe that and those who identify some later arbitrary point at which the fetus's rights begin. I believe that my rights end where your legitimate rights begin and the mother's right to choose what happens to her body end where the baby's rights begin. Your government should protect your rights against the capricious usurpation of those rights by another. Seeing a crime committed, and turning a blind eye to the damage done to the victim, allows us to be correctly characterized as barbarians. With me? 2nd UPDATE: Equating vegetarianism with respect for the sanctity of life is not likely to win many believers over to the pro-abortion side. It is stunning how those dots connect in this discussion. Whatever textbook exists which specifies the silly criteria you have listed as denoting life should be made public for all to read. It is frightening to think that there is a teacher or professor in the United States (or anywhere in the world) who would teach such rot to our young skulls filled with mush. UPDATE: BirdEgal, who gets to answer the rhetorical questions . . . the desperate woman? Wouldn't that be like playing God? What are her qualifications? And seeing, feeling and experiencing emotion are the only tests for what constitutes life? That would be ground-breaking medical science. ORIGINAL COMMENT 12/22/04: It is a very important issue in US politics, and will remain so. Both sides have their fair share of zealots and shrill, sometimes-violent, ardent supporters, but the reason it will remain a political issue is because it was foisted on the American people as law by judicial fiat. When the Supreme Court (led by Harry Blackmun) decided this, nobody in the US got to vote, no politician wrote a bill, or a Constitutional Amendment, and the pro-abortion lobby received a great gift: the law of the land was changed, without due process, to their liking. I don't care how right you think your argument is, this is a country of laws. This fiat undermined the US Constitution and, even if you are in favor of it, every American should be outraged that the law was changed this way. There is a process set out in the Constitution for this and it was circumvented. To address the conundrum of how can people who oppose abortion and euthanasia favor the death penalty, I suppose that people like me don't equate the person convicted in court, by a jury of his peers, of a heinous, murderous crime with innocent unborn babies and old people. I see justice on one side, but not the other.

this isn't a review but an invitation to an open forum. here's my question to anti-abortion folks. Why do you want Roe V Wade overturned? now, before you email me with the answer, follow these guidelines. Knowing your own personal beliefs and what you would do, why do you still want this law overturned for other people. meaning, even though you or your family would never consider abortion as an option(birth control, pregnancy problem etc), why do you still want this illegal and out of the hands of citizens to make their own choice. seems odd to me, but i'm curious to know why this just can't be a personal choice on your parts. why are you so concerned with what other people do?

This is a very important issue. First off, how can one justify a minor getting an abortion without a parent's notification? Second off, how can a woman get an abortion without telling the father? It takes two to make the baby doesn't it? I'm aa guy, and personally I would never want a girl who is carrying my baby to have an abortion. I am pro-life, but as long as its legal the males and the parents should AT LEAST have a say in the matter.