Good cause. However very ineffective. Talk about a fight you can't win.

Meh. I feel like alot of harm has come to the world on account of corporate polluters- oil spills, toxic dumping, clearcutting. Will Exxon ever *really* get in trouble for every spill that occurs, or will legal channels only get it fined again and again? I think that once the law fails to eliminate hazards to our world, people should eliminate their reliance on the law and shut places down however they can.

That said, does the ELF regularly injure people, or just property? I've every objection to killing people (most of them just trying to make a living however they can manage), but it's my understanding that ELF publicly objects to that. And if *anyone* can spraypaint "ELF" on a wall and be considered ELF, than it doesn't seem fair to object to the official ELF standard because some psycho wanted to kill the janitor in the fur factory.

ELF's overall message is good. Not every idiot calling themselves ELF has the moral compunction against killing another person.

(and driving a spike into a large tree doesn't kill the tree anymore than your treehouse growing up did)

This is basically a pack of cowards that hides behind terrorism. I assume they are similar to the Spanish Anarchists of the Civil War. That batch of mopes was worthless on the battlefield but great manning a firing squad shooting innocent nuns. This gaggle of skulking skunks is much the same.

I wouldn't call them terrorists so much as vandals.

Not particularly effective, and despite their rhetoric, seem more interested in targetting individuals than corporations.

Fond of spraying fur coats with paint or blood, particularly when worn by some celebrity in the glare of cameras.

I always wonder, if they are so concerned with the skinned animal and its use in clothing, why they don't give a pack of leather-clad Hell's Angels to the same treatment.

Autzen's comment on tree-spiking reminds me of a particularly nasty variant of that despicable practice that came into being in British Columbia. This was to drill holes into the tree and insert a ten inch spike slightly smaller than the diameter of the hole in each. A chain saw catching one of the spikes would fling it out of the tree, impaling the logger.

Yeah, killing a worker, there's another courageous blow against a wicked corporation. Nice work, you cappucino sucking, concrete condo-dwelling city slickers.

Leftist version of abortion-clinic hasslers/bombers. . .vandals, irritants, and dangerous if left unchecked and unpunished. . .

This is a hard rating for me because 4 stars would be labelled "good" and 2 stars gets them a "bad", which is what they are. "Terrorists" are people and/or organizations who utilize threats and/or use of destructive force to intimidate a group of people in promoting a factional political agenda. They aren't terrorists because they don't kill people? Try not to confuse terrorists with murderers. It's funny how ideology separates us. Putting panties on an Arab man's head (who is being detained as a terrorist) is considered torture. Ruining with red spray paint a private US citizen's mink coat worth $10,000 or $20,000, because YOU think minks' pelts should not be used for clothing, is not considered terrorism because nobody got killed. So, if this organization's deeds are to be excused and decriminalized, liberals must not believe in private property rights. Right? Or does the lady's coat have no value, or less value than the terrorist's dignity? Try not to confuse terrorists with vandals.

Again, they don't kill people. They destroy property. And their targets are serious polluters. Don't agree with their tactics, but I definitely think labelling them a "terrorist organization" is more about slamming environmentalists in general than merely condemning their tactics. If they were blowing up abortion clinics, they wouldn't be on this list. And the "pro-life" groups have killed.

I would just like to know one thing...what do these "enviromental" saviors think their "buring" of these buildings does to the atmosphere? All the chemicals that are used to treat the wood in the construction of these buildings, when burned, is just further poluting the atmosphere. I can understand that these guys want to save the planet and all, but if they would put their energy into more constructive and non-violent sources to infulence the government.

Just a bunch of idiotic, anarchic, tree huggin liberals with nothing better to do than destroy SUVs. They are the scum of the earth (great song by rob zombie) and are no better than your average vandel. ELF SUCKS!

Terrorists usually leave casualties in the wake of their actions, the ELF and ALF does not. No living creature has ever been harmed. Property is destroyed, but this is simply hitting the industries where it hurts them the most -- their POCKETBOOKS. Most of these actions are taken by piss off kids who are sick of just complaining about things, and everyone has heard the old axiom actions speak louder than words. Besides, would you rather have a return to the 19th century idea of propaganda by the deed? I don't think so. This is just the natural non-violent evolution of direct action in the radical milieu.

you do relize that we cant go back to living in huts and being nomads without a huge amount of people dying we have become domesticated granted. there are better ways of getting around like electric cars but electricty doesnt come from magic, and natural gas cars break down very easy styly.

But there real job is to defend the earth from Elfen creatures and fairys. Talk about going about it the wrong way. If you attack big business you go for the profits. If profits decrease cuts are made and guess what gets cut first. American jobs and factorys which are moved over seas where there is not EPA or enviromental inforcement by goverments as they are just looking for revenue streams and not clear blue streams.

ELF is a perfect example of neo leftism. Since the old left was dismantled with the collapse of the soviet union, the only thing that the left has going for it is minotirites in america who spend too much time bickering how they're victims of whitey and want reparations, or rich people who want equal distribution of the wealth and higher taxes, but have bank accounts in other countries. ELF is just another offshoot of the new left: a bunch of idiotic, unemployed, homosexuals with no real meaning in life seeking to free all the little bunnies of the land..probably so they can have their way with them LOL.

More loonies.

I detest free market capitalism and corporate globalisation more than most but groups like ELF give the environment movement a bad name. I support radical direct action but without senseless violence and destruction.

Terrorists who are destroying the enviorment rather than helping it. Thier website proudly accepts responsibility for burning SUV's last August.

Such a simplistic response to a complicated problem could only come from the United States. Human beings are part and parcel of the web of life. They are not a separate entity that decides the fate of the world. Life on earth will continue with or without humankind. This elevation of human status is the root of most environmental problems; and, ironically, the main fault of the ELF. These people are as simple-minded and arrogant as the "for us or against us" rednecks running (ruining?) our country now. How can we understand the complexities that underly ecology without the science that destroys it? How can we understand the need for preservation without destruction? The real solution lies in a yet unexplored balancing act that is thwarted at every turn by extremists on both sides.

An objective rating: The ELF does manage to confine activity to ecoterrorism, but with the activities attributed to the group an outsider may mistake the mission to be that of class war. Two plusses for the group's organization is 1) the targets are limited to residential and commercial/industrial developments and (as far as I know) do not include human targets, and 2) they have managed to keep themselves fairly secret except for targets they claim responsibility for. However, I imagine the group's average mindset is very radical; this is a minus as it limits the group to small missions such as arson, thus preventing the ELF from assuming complicated missions that send a robust political message (the primary objective of terrorism).

What a fantastic way to bring people around to your viewpoint: Burn their neighborhoods! I'm all for the environment. I like it a lot. I can't see how terrorism will do any long term good in protecting it. I have the idea that the ELF is really a right-wing conspiracy group the purpose of which is to make the left look ridiculous.

We should treat these crazy greenies the way we do alqaeda. They're a bunch of communist and anarchists, " I have no idea how they combined those". Eventually they are going to kill alot of innocent people. They act like spoiled children and destroy things when they don't get there way. All they have accomplished doing is making people blow off anything the enviormentalists say. I say raid them and if they pull a gun play duck hunt with them.

There are far more peaceful ways at preserving our environment. Do me a favor, ELF, and liberate ME from your BS.

I am angry about environmental destruction however I can not understand how setting fire to buildings is going to help the environment. In fact the smoke from the fires just adds to the tons of greenhouse emissions already in the atmosphere. My advise to ANY environmental activist: THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES BEFORE YOU ACT!

I think it is good. Pigwiggle you are a moron. Maybe there might be deers and bunnies that eat the vegetables in your garden but before your stupid house was there, that property, belonged to those rabbits and deers and butterflies. Just by the way you speak, oh man you are such a moron and everybody else that thinkgs the same. I love ELF ! At leas they are trying to do something good for our world. And of course theya re terrorists, everybody that wants to do something good is a terrorist.

I don't agree with their violent means, but they have a good message. I don't like extremism on any side so acting like a bunch of terrorists is a big negative for me. However, the Earth is not an indestucible fountainhead of endless resources and some consiousness is just wise. Recycling is easy and just makes sense. Riding a bike (which I did for five years, even to the grocery store) is good exercise and does make a difference pollution-wise. Buying organic when possible is good for your body and supports small farmers. Instead of blowing up cars and alienating all but the most hard-core, these people would be better off just practicing what they preach instead of turning people off with their fanatical ways.

Distructive MORONS! Don't they know that people are as much a part of the Earth's environment as the bunnies,the deer(who do countless damage to my vegetable garden and my trees and roses) and the trees they are so fond of hugging??? People didn't come here from someplace else in the last 100 or so years and start messing up the place. We've been here right along and we have a right to earn a living, grow our own crops, practice sensible wildlife and forrest management. I think these elf weirdos would do well to get themselves JOBS and leave the rest of us alone!

Associate SUVs with terrorists? You'd know your own kind wouldn't you? I hope that you find peace in the joke you call consciousness.

Personally, I give it to them. They are geniuses. They use efficient means of inflicting tremendous and costly damage to environmentally detrimental facilities. I completely understand where they are coming from, although, I do take a far more moderate stance. I just don't feel that their actions will gain respect for their cause. They simply draw negative attention to it.

Doesn't driving spikes into trees KILL the trees???

The people in ELF are just cowards. They are a bunck of terroists wanna-be's. Hell any moron can set fire to a bunch of cars. When I was a kid we use to burn stuff all the time. The problem with this group is that they are populated with a bunch of homosexual momma boys. The kind of guys nobody in high school liked. The kind of guys who were always too scared to stand up for what they beleived in. They are misguided vandals who think they will make a difference by burning up some cars or burning down a building or two. I will be happy to debate one of you losers anytime or any place on this very issue. But it will never happen because they hide. Too scared to come forward and face us.

What a bunch of fools.For the record PETA uses ther contribtors' tax exempt donations to support the ELF.This FBI-certified "domestic terrorist" organization was respsible for a $12 million fire in Vail.PETA has admitted that gave more than $100.000 to convicted arsonists and other violen criminals.Who really needs liberation?Probably everyone of us.....liberated from the senseless acts of violence that these alleged "groups of the people"commit.What a shame.

no better than Greenpeace...

We don't even know who the members of the "Earth Liberation Front" are. All of their actions are completely anonymous. We know of their existance because they always leave a calling card at the scene of the crime. They believe that by destroying development, they will be doing the earth a big favor. Among the things ELF has destroyed is a ski resort in Colorado. This is environmentalism taken to the extreme. Some people would rather be for the environment rather than the people. I believe that the environmentalist movement would have a greater impact if reactionaries did not control it. ELF is an extreme case of this. The environment should be preserved for all of us to enjoy. Massive pieces of land should not cornered off. Human interaction with the land is necessary to maintain environmental equilibrium. As humans we exploit the earth everyday, when we eat, drink, and breathe we are exploiting the earth. Sure I'm against dumping waste and excessive CO2 emissions, but we should not go back to the stone ages like ELF wants.