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More lies from Moore

This movie preys on the gullibility of the paranoid. Mr. Moore has done Joseph Goebbels proud.

If your into propaganda, this is for you! No better example around.

There is some relevant info that I have from other sources. Im not a Bush fan but I dont like Moore's attitude. He's a Socialist who should be shipped to Canada.

It's a breath of fresh air to hear the many highly educated and less gullible Americans that are still living in this wonderful country. As for those blind ones ( still screaming YEAHH WARRRRR!!!) God have mercy on them. Michale Moore is just a man with some ba##& who exposed the truth, the reality, the ins and outs and corruption during the aftermath of 9/11 and the beginning of the war,that we didn't know about, that the whole world suspected, but us. If you stop watching our filtered news for a minute and start watching international news you will see that what they feed us is the bull s@#$% they want us to hear, and while the rest of the world, all Europe and other continents hate us and think that all of us are approving of Bush and his agenda. Don't you think it is a little strange that this man is hated by the masses all around the world ( we don't see it because the politians of those countries can not disagree or cut ties with the USA, commercial trade eccc would be affected and it's simply politics that's why they are called politicians right? alot of countries in the ONU were against the war in the beginning but god knows what kind of threat or offer, or simply out of being scared now pretty much all countries support Bush. But if you look at the people the people in each country that get the truth are constantly protesting and are full of hate against us and that is not fair, because just like alot of americans are blind to what is going on in the world, these people think things of us that are not true. Not all Americans are pro-war, and that makes my blood boil. Look out of your shells people of America because even though we live in a wonderful country (a coutry of freedom of speech and security a country that was admired by the rest of the world) we still live in this world and must not be ingnorant of that. Bush not only has and will continue to destroy us by now also stating a possible war with Iran, ( more peole dying more human mass destruction) millions of times more than what they did to us in 9/11) more deaths in our consciences and more of our young soldiers to die. Not only that but he wants to speed up global warming by bulding oil mines in Alaska!!!! do u have any idea what that is going to do to our globe, he also plans on bulding houses in areas of natural habitat, and why?? because the money will provide him with more millions and trillions to cover the expenses of his disgusting war. American people are good people, we are united people and we have giagantic hearts and conpassion for others, probably more than any other people in any other country that I have traveled in the world; but we are being lied to and manipulated through patriotism, that is why Bush is more heard when he speaks about the war and protecting America ( he won't protect sh#%* when it comes down to it, if something even happens he will probably hide away somewhere with his family and leave us all to fend for ourselves) his popularity in any other area is -0 because he is a lot of talk and no action, and what a talk ( he can't even pronunce or know the meaning of certain words). I'm going to finish by saying that I love America even though I wasn't born here (I was born in Spain and I'm also half Italian) I will always travel but I'll always return to my home in America, but my heart will always be broken at the forsight of our future dispair if this president another Napoleon, another Hitler, another Franco and ultimately another Sadam, continues being supported by us.

If you had a soldier who was for the war and a soldier who was against it who do you think would be in this film? This movie is nothing more then political garbage with extreme exagerations and bias. If anything he has made our nation more stupid then it already is and should be punished for such filth

Whether you agree or disagree with Michael Moore, democracy needs people like him, who are not afraid to question the actions and intentions of the people whom we give the power to rule our country. George Bush is supposed to represent all Americans, Michael Moore included. If Moore were to keep his mouth shut, he would fail in his duty as an American citizen.

If you want to see the truth about how Michael deceived America by editing footage to promote his political agenda see FahrenHype 9/11.Spend 5 minutes reading up on Mike and you will see he has a long comfortable relationship with deceit. He can't even tell the truth about his birthplace. He says he was born in Flint, Michigan when in reality he was born across the tracks in Davison.

Run far far away from anything Michael moore writes. The slant he writes with is unbelievable. I find it hard to believe the First Amendment protects his type, but it does. Betcha the Framers never saw him coming...betcha they're wretch the minute they saw his pile'o'****.

My husband encouraged me to watch this movie. I think it is a GREAT movie because it opens the public's eyes to so much information that we normally don't get to see unedited. We only get to hear & see what the government wants us to unless we dig a little deeper. Kudos to Michael Moore for making it his mission to dig a little deeper and pass it on to the American public.

Sheer rubbish. An insult to the intelligence. A film that punishes you for actually know something.

UPDATE: Say goodbye to America, hope you enjoy your police state? Facts are facts? Reav, whew. Now, there are lots of things you can blame on a public high school education, but your kool-aid distribution seems a little more serious. Moore's movie is factual? Even the faithful Deaniacs don't try to purport that. Just line up in Michael's kool-aid line when he tells you it's a fact that it's good for you. I'll remain in the police state I just voted for. And bluetar, being propaganda doesn't make it false? Look up the definition of propaganda again. ORIGINAL COMMENT 3/4/05: This is on the wrong list. Where is the list on crockumentaries? This rates a 5 there.

Editing/Contextual wise of course it is manipulative and biased. This aside, facts are facts and anyone can confirm them independently of the movie itself. If you want to blind yourself to facts and pretend they do not exist then you are either naive or a Bushite. Say goodbye to America people, hope you like your police state. You voted for it.

Being propaganda doesn't make it false. Besides, people who were voting for Kerry were going to, movie or not. And republicans are very dense and stubborn - their vote is more about beating liberals than it is the betterment of the country. No facts or propaganda could change their mind. They don't care if Bush is a liar. So, who cares? Good movie.)))))))) ))))))))UPDATE. And they KNOW Bush is a liar. They don't care, people. It's like Ben Affleck's sister saying 'Gigli' was good. She knows it sucked, but she'll be damned if she is going to givwe critics the pleasure. Deep down they all know he is the worst president in history. They go to bed thinking about it. But if you say it to them, they will defend him at all cost. Come on, even republicans are not that stupid. They know. It's so obvious. ALL THE LIVING GREAT MINDS AGREE. I think it's a shame that folks voted for Bush, thus throwing our country away, basically, literally for spite. Damn shame. We will fall, just like Rome, and historians in the future will look upon this administration's run as the turning point. Naturally, republicans will dismiss this comment, like the stubborn morons they are. That's the problem - nobody will open their minds. THINK PEOPLE! Trust me, THAT is what Jesus wants.)))))))))))))))))UPDATE Being against the war is the most support one can give the troops. If I was there, I would feel more supported by the people who wanted me to come home and NOT DIE. I would feel less supported by the people on the right, and the administration that said, casualties are irrelevant right now.

I'm not all that into the political world...and I consider myself on the fence when it came to the elections last year. I did see this movie basically to see what the hype was all about. I found it very thought provoking and interesting. I think it's a movie everyone should see. I know there are two sides to every story, and I have yet to see the rebuttal movie, Farenhype 9/11 (I think). Don't get me wrong...I'm divide about the whole Iraq War...personally it looks like my generations equivalent to the Vietnam War. However I do support our troops and to a certain extent trust our leaders. Farenheit 9/11 was very intriguing though...especially the mother whose son was killed. She was very patriotic and very supportive, until her son was KIA. I really felt for this poor woman and her family. I really don't care much for Michael Moore, but this is worth a viewing.

Just one of those movies to get everyone to vote for kerry. Plus, how could moore know anything about what bush did? he's a director. I only saw the beginning because i got bored with it.

I'm loving this bulshit. Its troops like the ones in Iraq and overseas that make it possible for a fat lard like Moore to make a flick like this. Just disgrace. It is unbelieveable how people can go along with liberal propaganda and believe that Bush is in Iraq for HIS PERSONAL REASONS. Get a clue and realize that we did not elect a president who is so foolish. As Fheit as a movie, poor insight with one sided views. Whomever made this movie needs to kill yourself. We love you Michael Moore. Keep putting out bad movies because the republican party loves to bash your liberal propaganda. Just remember who controls the senate. Bill Frist.

Moore makes me want to throw up every time I see him.........

Pure cut and paste.I thought documentaries were based on fact.A look into the mind of the hollywood left.They see the world as a big picture that is to be directed to their taste.Even sadder are the mindless zombies who believe and base their arguments on this garbage.

Documentaries are objective and use facts. This is ultra-liberal propaganda.

some bits amy be out of context yes and some things may be wrong but it has a point

I found the first half of this movie to be well done and quite disturbing. The second half was maudlin and boring. By the end of it, I wanted to go find the mother of that marine and smack her one.

I've seen two of Moore's movies and while he does bring up some interesting points in SOME things, he takes TOO MANY things out of context. Moore plays on Americans willingness to believe what is set before them. Heaven forbid some may actually do their own research and root out the truth in all of Moore's half-truths. Go online and type in THE 59 DECEITS OF FARENHEIT 9/11. It will shed some light on some of the facts that Moore reveals in his film. Also, try watching Celsius 41:11 or Farenhype 9/11. Both give differing views than Moore. GOD bless you all, America, and George W. Bush.

It's not a documentary...

You guys have to remember - Mike Moore is a filmmaker, an artist. Dubya is the President of the United States of America. Some of you think that Moore is distorting the public with this movie? Its a movie! Gee, I really think that Alien vs. Predator is really distorting people's view of the history of the planet! Bullstuff! Of course Dubya didn't go to war for political reasons - they are monetary reasons! The Carlyle Group has $800,000,000,000 invested in the American War Machine...hmmm. Who's in the Carlyle Group? the Suadi Binladen family, Texans+Bushes, Tony Blair...? This is too much! I was phyisically ill watching this movie (not just from seeing Moore on screen, either) but from the civilian causalties in Iraq. Oscar Wilde said,Patriotism is the virtue of the viscous. If you watched this movie and you were not touched deep down by the uncensored brutality of this war - then you are a true patriot!

A Riefenstahl style of propaganda. A steaming pile of narcisistic crud. A dangerous abcess of lies thinly shrouded in truth. A film that can only be taken as truth by those that desperately need it to be true. Even my bleeding heart liberal dad felt it was misleading and shallow. A natural by-product of Dr. Spock's disasterous social experiment. A monument to Michael Moore's huge ego. other than that it was OK.

A documentary - really? I thought it was more of a feature length cartoon. Ever heard of out of context creative editing? You know, like special effects. Manipulation. Get it? Or, do you really believe Superman can fly?

good insight

Try FahrenHYPE 9/11

Good balance for television news viewers, but not well constructed. The film always takes the easy road.

I rented this 2day and man I was dissapointed. The film was good but it was just like news talk. rom 9/11 to tday I could've listened to this on the news. IT also was a false film.

This paints a very good picture of what our president is about. While, obviously, we have to take some of the things with a grain of salt, the majority of the accusations are backed up with facts and links on www.michaelmoore.com. Having a lot of family in the military, I would hate to see them give their lives for Bush's private little agendas. Please do not vote for Bush, there is no telling what he will do if he doesn't have to worry about getting elected again.

Michael Moore is a rabid animal. Put him to sleep, please.

lies, have you seen gearge bush talk about the men he sent to war, hardly a man who did it for political gain.

First, I have to say that anyone who reviewed this movie who had not seen it is a complete moron. Second, this is a good movie no matter what your political opinion. Third, all documentaries have an angle, and America is smart enough to know that Moore is biased, and Moore knows that America knows it. When Moore says What was bush thinking? Was it, oh man, who screwed me? he isn't trying to get away with anything. It's just his opinion, and everyone knows it including him. So people need to get passed that. Look at the facts in this movie... take away every ounce of biase and you still have some shocking facts that people need to know and investigate for themselves before they go and vote... and as I said before, all of that aside, this is just a well put together movie.

I don't have to watch a Michael Moore film or any major news network to confirm what I already think of George Bush. All I have to do is look at my own country and see that a convicted serial rapist (Iorworth Hoare) won 7million in a lottery win, students in serious debt, messed up travel and ask where my prime minister Tony Blair is to address these problems and realise hes too busy supporting a man who uses his power as an excuse to exploit and invade other countries that didn't pose a single threat to his in the first place. I don't have to ask myself if the war in Iraq was justified all I have to do is look at the death toll and the anger of many soldiers and their families who now question the mis-leading information they were given to invade a country. Whoever makes the choice not to see this film is obviously scared of certain facts that are being presented to them. Whilst I make it a habit to apologise for certain posts in the event of not offending anyone I won't be apologising for this one as its about time we faced reality that the incomptent and social inept who is now present in the oval office has single-handedly assisted himself in making not only fantastic viewing in a documentary that he starred in, but also some of the biggest blunders in political history.

It's muckraking...but it's first-class funny as hell muckraking. I love watching my pansy-president sit in front of children for several minutes (after he was told we were under attack) doing nothing. Talk about deer in the headlights. Did he care that he might be a target thus the children just might be in danger? Did he think to ask about his own family? It's just too easy taking shots at this guy. The movie was funny- and certainly far-reaching at times.

Of course, like any other documentarian and activist, Moore misses the point from time to time, but for the most part, his three features were on the money. Fahrenheit 9/11 did make too much of the Unocal issue and was slightly off-base when it came to the number of children of Congressional members in military service (Moore said it was 1 when the number is actually around 4, which still means that less than 1% of Congressmen/women have children at risk of being in military harm's way: the interesting point Moore made in this regard is that not a single member of Congress he approached in terms of recruiting their children would give him the time of day. What great leaders we have who are willing to make the same sarifices the common people routinely do!). He did belabor some points that should have been left alone, but he did point out some damning facts that did not paint GWB in flattering colors, and for good reason. It was great that Moore included the now-famous eight minutes of GWB reading My Favorite Goat: here, the so-called Leader of the Free World who's supposed to be so vigilant against terrorism and stalwart in protecting the nation, blankly sitting there like a bump on a log after he was informed that our nation was under attack. Now, that's leadership and decisiveness! Actually, he sat there, blinking like the deer caught in the headlights, immobile, paralyzed, obviously totally unsure of what to do. He looked heavily medicated, as well. Another very interesting point was how members of the House of Saud and other prominent Arabs, through the intermediary Mr. Bath, coughed up millions of dollars to bail out young GWB's failed oil prospecting projects. No wonder GWB refuses to go after the real enemy, the true sponsors of terrorism. Also interesting that the bin Laden and Bush families are bigtime players in the Carlyle Group: obviously oil and money are thicker than blood to these people, that the financial interests of the Bush family are more important than national security and the safety of American citizens. It's not terribly surprising that GWB dropped the ball in terms of getting Osama or eradicating his apparatus and instead went off half-cocked on this lame Iraq distractionary adventure. Anyone who pans this film and accuses it of being fictive and grossly inaccurate is obviously one of those brainwashed dimbulbs blindly allegiant to that moronic draft dodger and fool currently drooling in the Oval Office. Get with it rightwing touchholes: Bush is a total loser.

He really did win for the quality of the movie , I'm still in awe in how he strung together all that information seamlessly. At the end of the movie I felt really betrayed by the media who never covered these things and uses up news time by interviewing other talking heads on their opinions. Who cares? how about some facts!

people that gave this movie a low rating obviously cant face the truth or are stupider than george w. bush.

This should not be listed under documentary....purely fiction trying to be sold as truth to an unaware public.. lies, misrepresentation and deceitful editing techniques to get his blatantly weak points across...

This was a great movie . This was was the only movie I've been to that got a standing O ( 2 minutes and this is in texas!!) I see some reviewers did not even see the movie talk about idiots!

This is NOT a documentary at all. Its Moore's distorted facts, half truths, and lies that is all jumbled into one big disasterous propaganda piece. And its not because I just don't like him. the movie jumps all over the place, from one issue to the next. It was poorly put together, and does a poor job of linking Bush to Saudi Arabia and Saddam. He only allowed soldeirs who were against the war to speak out. He also said that only one Congressman had a family member in Iraq, which is a LIE. There are actually 4 of them. How can anyone take this crap seriously? Every time he tries to get serious, he quickly ruins it with cheap shots and jokes at Bush. Like Bush's bad looks or his poor speech. What mature, fair documentary does that? The notion is given that all soldiers are against war, and that only conservatives supported it. He never once mentions who several liberals, including Mr. Kerry voted for military action and for the Patriot Act on several occassions. He mainly just reinstitutes information that has already been told by everyone else. I learned nothing new from watching this. Nothing. Instead of trying to make me support Kerry, (which is the entire point of this film) he has only managed to make me support the President even more. The opening is the worst part of the movie. He tries saying how Al Gore really won. Really, when are the sore losers from the left stop thier bitching and moaning? YOU LOST! Get over it already. Back to the issue on Iraq, if Moore actually said that liberals and Kerry voted for military action, I would have given this a three rating. But he didn't, because he's biased. He is an admitted Communist. And no, he did not make any money off of me. I purchased a ticket for another movie but seen this instead. Like Ive said, no knew information on current events was unfolded in this piece. Mr. Moore was simply doing what he does best- making millions on the deaths of innocents. He's is a really awesome at propaganda pieces. Joseph Goebbels would be jumping for joy if he seen this. Moore complains that there are not enough troops in Iraq. Why doesn't he sign up? Huh? It would do his fat body some good. This comment may sound like a personal attack, and it some way it is. But I hate liars and hypocrites who love to distort the American public.

Christopher Hitchens (a lefty, former editor of The Nation, who is redeemed by being intellectual honest) had the best review of this film: Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of 'dissenting' bravery. Read the whole review at http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

Fahrenheit 9/11 has a way a making American news coverage of the Iraq war seem terribly censored, although much of the film is nothing new. Many facts we've heard before, just not delineated together quite as coherently. Still, even informed viewers can expect to be startled over facts that have escaped the media coverage. Assorted clips of President Bush being himself have a way of telling a thousand more words than any of Moore's commentary. A particularly disturbing clip is of Bush looking bewildered and being inactive for several minutes after being told a second plane has crashed into the World Trade Center. He just keeps sitting with the book My Pet Goat, not bothering to excuse himself from his public relations appearance with a bunch of kids. Interestingly, Democrats receive a lot of blame in the film as well for failing to object to questionable war-related political maneuvering. Fahrenheit 9/11 also highlights how the American media practiced similar self-censorship, showing news anchors (who often get labeled as too liberal) parrotting Bush propaganda of the day with a straight face. Viewers witness the strong the ties of both George Bush Sr. and Jr. to influential Saudis, for reasons of oil ventures. Saudis are shown to have been instrumental in bailing out Dubya's failed oil businesses, apparently as a gesture for his dad in the White House. The ties extend to the family of Osama bin Laden, illustrates Moore. It is pointed that most every 9/11 hijacker was Saudi, which the Bush administration chose to downplay. The film also raises the question of the bin Laden hunt being understaffed and how our attentions were directed away too soon, which is worthy of intellectual debate. Flip-flops in Bush administration rhetoric are laid out, such as public statements that Hussein was not a threat before 9/11, followed by insistence that Iraq had imminently-threatening nuclear capabilities and ties to Al-Qaeda, then the backpedalling on both claims. The movie also raises the question: Is it fair to show images of a camp of permanently disabled American troops, as well as maimed Iraqi children? Should the mainstream media censor stories about grieving American mothers of lost troops who blame the sitting president? What is the media's responsibility in presenting dissenting evidence and balance to war propaganda? People who haven't even seen the film have gone to great lengths to discredit the documentary. As someone who has seen the film, I find the heart of the film worthy of serious consideration and open dialogue.

documentary: Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film. propaganda: The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause. Hmmm...documentary or propaganda? Which one applies? It's propaganda, but worth seeing because it's the way he thinks and he is not alone. It's a good idea to know what sheeple people are thinking & why they think that way. I listen to Rush Limbaugh from time to time for the same reason that I saw this work of fiction based on facts...er, I mean this crocumentary.

I don't plan on seeing this because I don't see the point. After Moore's performance at last years Oscars I lost all respect for this idiot. This country is probably facing one of its toughest battles, I am talking about the war against terrorisim. Does every one remember 9/11 or was that some kind of Republician stunt, I think not. this moron is using to forward his agenda.

Michael Moores film Fahrenheit 9/11 gives his left leaning slant on the Bush Adminstration and 9/11, just as Rush and OReilly and Hannity, etc., give their right leaning slant on those topics every day on the radio and TV. I think Moores slant is closer to the truth. There is no doubt in my mind that Bush has screwed us up royally. I cannot remember a time in which there was so much animosity toward America around the globe. Do you know that the day after 9/11 there were candlelight vigils being held in Iran in sorrow and respect for our tragedy? We had the whole world behind us, even after we went into Afghanistan, an action that most Americans, myself included, felt was justifiable and appropriate. The war in Iraq turned all of that good will into hatred. It has alienated former allies. It has divided our nation. It has taken the lives of hundreds of fine American servicemen and women. It has also ruined the lives of thousands of others who have been maimed, both physically and psychologically. It has also taken the lives of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. The financial cost of the war is tremendous and will certainly have lasting implications for our economy. And what is the big reward for our efforts? The removal from power of a murderous tyrant whom had already been so marginalized by the Gulf War that he posed no real threat to us or our allies. And the Iraqi people are so grateful for our intervention on their behalf that they are attempting to kill our soldiers every chance they get. Fahrenheit 9/11 put a spotlight on certain issues which have been rather puzzling to me, such as, why the delayed and seemingly half-hearted attempt at capturing Osama Bin Laden? Why did we shift our focus from Al Qaeda, the extremist Muslim organization responsible for the 9/11 attack, to Iraq, a secular state with virtually no ties to Bin Laden or Al Qaeda? Moores film might have you believe that the answer to those questions could be big money and power. I dont know that I ascribe to all of the conspiracy theories surrounding the relationships between the Bush Administration and the Saudis, or the role of large American corporations in the rebuilding of Iraq and its prized oil reserves, but I can tell you it all looks and smells very bad. If that sounds cynical, let me just remind you of the corrupting role that big money and power played in the recent implosion of our friends at Enron. In my opinion, this war has become a national tragedy for which the Bush Administration must be voted out of office. If Mr. Moores film helps accomplish this goal, than he is a hero in my estimation.

Check out this movie comming out in September... www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com a rebutal to 9/11

If I ignore the fact that this was made by Michael Moore, it would be slightly better, but since I question his motives, it affects my view on this movie. The movie itself wasn't too bad, though it really doesn't tell people much more than they already know. It wasn't hard to make cracks at the President--I mean, practically everyone has already--so it wasn't that special. The movie also features little publicity stunts, typical of Moore's films, with him pretty much acting like an ass to try to prove some point or another. I don't think this movie is designed to change anyone's minds at all--if you watch this, you pretty much have your mind set either way. I left with the same opinion of Bush as I did when I came in--a negative one. But, the one thing that stood out to me for this movie and for Bo