Hawkeye1776 05/30/2009
Having been one of those rough men I think Orwell Violence is the trumph of good over evil where would we be if not for rough men when it came to ending Slavery,Nazism,Fascism,Communism,now with pirates on the high seas,would be taking ships of all nations at will and terrorists would be setting up camp on our shores if not for rough men. It has been said for those who fought for it Freedom has flavor the protected will never know. Orwell knew Life Liberty and the the pursuit of anyone who theatens it is the creed of the rough of men,I think he would agree you only have rights you are willing to fight for. Even the Bible has said "Blessed be the lord my rock who trains my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Ps144.1 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother is motto of rough men. If your house would catch fire in the middle of the night who comes rough men,if you are attacked by thugs,who will come to your aid rough men. Semper Fidelis my brothers.my brothers
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Sarkia 05/24/2008
The Commitments (1991) : "Jimmy! Jimmy! Mickah Wallace wants to see yeh. He's in the pub." "Mickah Wallace?!" "- I hired him to do the door. Security." "- You're mad, Jimmy! He's a savage!" "- I know he is. But he's our savage."
irishgit 04/15/2008
Absolutely true, whether you like it or not. Orwell was a fascinating intelligent man, whose personal politics and world view went through several evolutions. He had the wit and the eloquence to understand and explain them. This is one of my favorites, albeit a disquieting one.
CardCheat 08/31/2007
The trouble with this quote is that it's...a misquote, it's actually "those who abjure violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf," and here's the context : "If one harbours anywhere in one's mind a nationalistic loyalty or hatred, certain facts, although in a sense known to be true, are inadmissible. Here are just a few examples. I list below five types of nationalist, and against each I append a fact which it is impossible for that type of nationalist to accept, even in his secret thoughts: BRITISH TORY: Britain will come out of this war with reduced power and prestige. COMMUNIST: If she had not been aided by Britain and America, Russia would have been defeated by Germany. IRISH NATIONALIST: Eire can only remain independent because of British protection. TROTSKYIST: The Stalin regime is accepted by the Russian masses. PACIFIST: Those who abjure violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf. All of these facts are grossly obvious if one's emotions do not happen to be involved: but to the kind of person named in each case they are also intolerable, and so they have to be denied, and false theories constructed upon their denial." Which is not arguing for violence somuch as pointing out that every ideology, particularly those which veer towards extreme statements, are prone to having blind spots. It's more complex than that misquote would ever admit. And it has to be viewed in the context of the times, which is a world still coming to terms with the political, economic and social aftermath of World War Two. I get a bit sick of seeing this quote parrotted by those to justify war as an action within itself, because frankly it misses the point.
hotel283 01/20/2006
Truer words never spoken. If only people could see how thin the veneer of "civilization" is over the world.
cutegurl 06/07/2005
This quote so eloquently reminds us that every night when we go to bed without harm there is someone to thank for that freedom. It also reminds us that freedom comes at a price that we must be willing to pay.
OrwellAn 05/14/2005
Quite a glib comment and perhaps a sad fact of life as much as anything else. But do people always deserve to sleep peaceably when violence is carried out on their behalf?
Underspin 04/15/2005
A quote every cop-hating lefty ideologue needs to read over and over again,'til they finally scream UNCLE.
numbah16tdhaha 04/12/2005
I used to have this on my user page until I replaced it with some dumbo Offspring lirics, but I still have a bumper sticker with this phrase on my car. It fits us Jarheads brilliantly.
Randyman 03/21/2005
The best reason in the world to support the troops.
Enkidu 03/21/2005
He's right about this one, and you gotta admire his courage, going to Spain himself in the 1930s to fight the fascists and getting shot in the neck (his essay about it is quite unforgettable)
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