yeah again. heard all this during Viet Nam. "If we don't stop them in the jungles of Southeast asia, we'll have to fight them in the streets of America." Horseshit then and horseshit now!

Yes, this is sadly funny. We are making people hate us even more, even our former allies are starting to not like us so much. We are in deep shiite. (lol, I know, that one has been beaten to death)

I think the Making America Safer campaign that we've been hearing is more of a smoke-screen than anything else. And our repeated bungling in this war, and the media's reporting of it, have probably made us less safe than we were. I can't say for sure what's happened in Abu Ghraib (sp?) and Gitmo, but I can say almost certainly that the rest of the world has not reacted favorably towards it. We still remain a fat juicy target for any terrorist group that wants to make a huge statement, it's simply a matter of time and a matter of how. The problem with the war on terror concept is that there are no troops to attack, no homeland to invade, no specific targets to eliminate. ANYONE could be a terrorist, given time and materials and incentive.

Going against the advice of nearly the entire rest of the World and killing thousands of innocent civilians (plenty of BABIES,too:(you so-called pro-life Bush lovers!)Has done NOTHING to make the U.S. safer. Terrorists are NOT discouraged by us stooping to their level-it INSPIRES and MOTIVATES them.

I hope for the best and fear the worst.

Yet to be determined.

I think the opposite is true. Taking our cause, righteous though it may be, to Muslim soil has put us squarely in the bullseye of terrorist aggression.

Every Bushie that believes everything this administration tells them thinks this war is making us 'safer' from the terrorists. Everyone else in the world believes that this b#llsh#t war has made us far more enemies now than ever before. You might as well live in Disneyland if you think we are safer. Sleep tight.

There is no front line in the War on Terror. They don't have troops. This isn't 20th Century warfare. Al-Qaeda is little more than a tag that independent groups of pissed off people take on when they decide to kill Jews and Americans. I fail to see how the occupation of Iraq keeps me safe from the Beltway Sniper, the Smiley Face bomber, Tim McVeigh, Unabomber wannabes, racist bombers like the Olympics guy, Hinckley, Oswald, Booth, and the Saudi nationals who were in this country legally and had never been to Iraq. (as some of them were) Making particular individuals less capable of blowing stuff up isn't going to help at all, especially when the way we do it just creates more pissed off people. There's 300 million people right here in America with the capability of horrific acts of terrorism if they get pissed or screwy enough. Remember that kid who flew his airplane into a Florida skyscraper the week after the Twin Towers attacks?

I think there is a case to be made that by making the front line of the war on terror Iraq, it keeps that front line from being in the US. However, that is a short term view. The administration's bungling of the hearts and minds efforts (through abu ghraib, gitmo, bagram, etc.) have made us less safe. We won't know the the full effects of these policies until the young muslims who grew up with those images in their head finish their fundamentalist training. It's a pretty scary prospect IMHO.