Came out at in a musical crowd in the 70s. Aerosmith, Kiss, Springsteen, Boston, solo Nugent.... could have gone either way for them but they went the way of Starz.... but Starz gets nods from rockers of today like Slash, Bon Jovi, Dokken (for what they're worth). Yeah, they're a punchline in Zappa's song, but Greg Giuffria survived somewhat for another 15-18 years.