It used to be called the love that dare not speak its name. Now it's the love that won't shut up. Those of you out there who deny that there is a homosexual agenda should check what you are ingesting. The agenda is approval and maybe even dominance. Tolerance is no longer the goal.

I made a big mistake years ago when I bought into this "tolerance" agenda in my libertarian days. We went from the tolerance stage to the "approved" stage.  This is hopeless and disgusting.

Everyone should have the right to be happy! Person's sexuality should be the last thing to be judged. Plus, you don't choose who you love, you just do!

It's weird and we could be spending time on defense, healthcare, taxes, education etc. instead of these strange people wanting to sleep with someone of the same sex. Its discusting, gays don't hurt society, but they do hurt families and America.

Eschew pretty much said it all, but I would add that The University of Michigan is now offering a course called, How to be gay and male homosexuality and initiation. There is a special high school in New York city for gays, lesbians and transgender students. If these don't sound odd to you, they do to me.

As far as the marriage issue is concerned I say put it to a vote. Let the people decide what to do, not the courts and I guarantee that it will never pass anywhere. No society, all the way back to the Roman Empire has stood when they embraced homosexuality! Look it up if you don't believe me.

we have lived in a soceity where we had no differences. (or very many of them) i believe that marriage is about love and feelings towards another person. if we are narrow-minded about homosexuals being married, than we should also be narrow-minded about race,religion,lifestyle, and intrests. now i dont think it would be fair to the human race, if we were all close-minded. there is also the religious factor.*Eschew*** homosexuals are NOT wired wrong. it just so happens that they arent the way you see people to be. and that would be called Narrow-mindedness. now you my be skeptical because im much too young to think for myself. but i know what i believe. i am a devout Catholic,and God made everybody in his image. including homosexuals. God doesnt discriminate same gender marriage, us as human beings do.

I don't think the gmt should be involved with what people do in bed. I also don't believe people should be disliked or discriminated against because of what they do in bed.
However, I think the homosexual community needs to act more responsably toward society when it comes to demanding rights. We live in a majority rules society no matter how you look at it. People who have normal sexual desires are likely going to stay in the majority.
Also, anyone that wants to be treated normally should be prepared to act as such. My wife and I feel no need to have a parade in order to make everyone aware of what we do in bed. That is noones business.
The homosexual community seems to make their sex practices something for public display. There is not a lot of self respect in doing so..........
The idea of homosexuals hijacking the instituation of marriage just to prove a point is absurd.
Something that could repair this whole problem in society is national health care, which would make creating status for sex partners unneccesary.

ORIGINAL COMMENT 11/18/05: Sorry, unhelpful to society at large, one thing with which I am in agreement with the islamofascists. (come to think of it, there aren't many gay terrorists, are there?) Anyway, these people are wired wrong. A psychological disorder like this, which affects way less than 2% of the general population, has way too much influence on society in general. That can't be helpful. UPDATE: Vu, all religion and politics aside, it certainly IS a psychological disorder. Sorry, these people ARE wired wrong. What "new facts" were discovered about homosexuality, its root causes, its recent preponderance among males (which most societies still resist) and women (which is, somehow, more acceptable, or less objectionable) since the 1970's? The fact that Americans and Europeans are more open-minded and accommodating of the disorder doesn't make it less of a disorder. With sincere apologies to those afflicted with this disorder, and I personally know several of both genders, it's not normal. I'm not clamoring for the "good ol' days" when they were all relegated to closeted behavior. Civil legal unions are fine with me. I acknowledge their rights as outlined under the Constitution, identical to mine. Live and let live. But, facts are stubborn things. A society's acceptance of deviant behavior doesn't make the behavior fundamentally less deviant, it only enjoys greater acceptance, accommodation. and preponderance. So, about those new facts? 2ND UPDATE: OK, Vu, the problem with claiming that something has been "proven" is that some wise guy can always ask you for the proof. I'm not purporting to have "facts" to back up my opinion. I'm asking what indisputable facts have been "discovered" regarding homosexual causes and contributing factors (since I am living in the 1970's) that "prove" it's not a psychological disorder. You've stated, unequivocally, that it has been proven not to be so. Where is such proof? I'll read it, understand it, and we'll undoubtably be in agreement. Harvard Medical School is looking frantically for the same proof so if you find it you may want to cc. them. Most medical professionals I know and have heard speak on the subject deliberately avoid any conclusions about it and will dodge even the most direct questions proferred at them. Not much more is conclusively known about this disorder than what we knew in the '70's. Certain influences in our society (Hollywood and Academia) have successfully crusaded for a more open-minded reaction to homosexuality by demonizing traditional ways of dealing with it, and we, as a society, are more accepting of homosexuals than we used to be. As I stated before, society's greater acceptance doesn't render the behavior any less deviant.

I don't think gays are asking for "special" rights,it seems that they'd just like equal rights to me.If we're supposed to be a free country,and I hope we really ARE-then I think that everyone should enjoy the same rights and opportunities.It's no ones business what other consenting adults do in bed.If a cetrain church or clergy feels it is morally wrong,they should also be FREE not to marry gays.Let them go to a church that accepts them,or be married by a justice of the peace.

tboneya: I like that you are trying to keep your own personal views out of the argument; sticking to facts and all, but...by saying, "marriage has always only been a union between a man and a woman", you've just opened yourself up to a whole other issue on the topic. True, marriage has always been between a man and a woman; but, marriage at times, has also included women becoming sole property to their husbands, rape victims being forced to marry their attackers because no man would marry a non-virgin, inter-racial marriages were not allowed, and divorce was unheard of. You cannot say that marriage isn't changed or unable to change; when in fact, all of those things HAVE changed over time. If marriage can change THAT much; it certainly could be changed to include same-sex couples. It may not happen in my lifetime, but it certainly has the ability to become a reality at some point in the future. ***Now on to Eschew: We're not living in the 1970's anymore, homosexuality is NOT a psychological disorder. It hasn't been since then, and it certainly won't be added to the list now.*** ***Update*** Eschew: It has NOTHING to do with religion OR politics; try picking up a medical terminology book and a reference to ALL psych. disorders. Or, even better; ask a psychologists. They'll tell you that it's NOT a disorder of the mind. What you think it is, and what medical professionals think it is; is entirely different. I think you're intelligent, but I'll go with professionals on this one. You can agree with their lifestyle or choose not to, that's fine...but...I'm not going to sit here and have you tell your "facts", which are entirely based on your misconceptions of what a psych. disorder truly is. I'd greatly appreciate if you'd angle this at being more towards your opinion, rather than outright calling it a "disorder", as if it is. It's YOUR opinion that it's a disorder; it's been proven not to be, but if you'd like to keep your stance, that's your business. I don't plan on arguing the point further, so agree to disagree if we must.

I think the movement makes some serious misfires, but anything that encourages dialouge that helps with changing times is good.

i think it has opened a few closed minds and laid to rest some misconceptions that are not true in every case.

The only such people offended by gay people are religous fanatics, if we want to live in a free society, free from theoracratic tyranny, we need gay rights.